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WHOLE Life Action Hour: Colleen Patrick-Goudreau – Dec. 1st 2018

August 15, 2019

– In just a few moments
now we’re gonna begin today’s WHOLE Life Action Hour. If you wanna take advantage
of the latest learnings of nutritional science and you wanna put healthy eating into practice in your life, then you are in the right place. In a few moments I will be
joined by our special guest for this Action Hour,
Colleen Patrick-Goudreau. We host an Action Hour every month, typically on the first
Saturday of the month. These Action Hours are
projects of WHOLE Life Club, which is Food Revolution Network’s brand new membership program. We just opened it and the
response has been incredible. Every month our WHOLE
Life Club has a theme and throughout that month,
club members receive videos, recipes, and
resources to help them take action on that theme, and our theme this month is how to have healthy, happy, fabulous holidays, which is the focus of today’s Action Hour. I wanna be very clear,
nothing about this event constitutes or in any
way replaces the need for medical advice. We are offering education
and our own best insights, but please use common sense and remember you should always consult
proper healthcare professional for any advice about treatment or response to a specific medical
condition or situation. Okay, here we go. Welcome to this WHOLE Life Action Hour, as we explore how you can take action to heal your body and
your planet with food. I’m Ocean Robins, co-founder and CEO of Food Revolution Network. Our focus today is how you can have happy and healthy holidays. We’re so glad to be joined for this hour by Colleen Patrick-Goudreau. Colleen is an expert and a thought leader on the culinary, the social, the ethical, and the practical aspect of
WHOLE foods plant based living. She’s the award winning
author of seven books, including The Joy of Vegan Baking, On Being Vegan, and The
30-Day Vegan Challenge. Colleen is an acclaimed
speaker and a beloved host of the inspiring podcast,
Food for Thought. Her genius is in helping
you be true to your values, while building positive relationships with the people you love,
whether they share those same values or habits and
lifestyle choices or not. Colleen, thank you so much for being here and for taking the time
to share your wisdom with all of us today. – Hi, Ocean. Hi, everybody. Good to be here. – Well, wonderful to have you
and speaking to all of our participants, we’re thrilled
to have you with us too. It’s so exciting and it’s
so powerful when we can join forces with others who are
on this healthy eating path. In this hour I’m gonna be
asking Colleen questions that are on a lot of our minds, and I’m also gonna share
some specific questions that were shared with us by our members in the WHOLE Life Club. And when we complete
our time with Colleen, I’ll introduce you to WHOLE Life Club and if you’re not already a member, I encourage you to stay
on so you can find out about the special offer
that’s only available on this one day of the month, today. And if you’re so eager
that you can’t wait, or you’re curious, but
know you’re gonna have to leave early, there is a
button on the broadcast page that let’s you learn more
about it at any time. Throughout this event,
I wanna encourage you to make good use of the comments
area on the broadcast page. We have staff there to
moderate if you hear anything particularly inspiring,
anything you wanna remember or highlight or make sure
everything else hears, I wanna encourage you to
share that in the comments area as well, so that
everybody with us right now can see it. Let’s all lift each other up and share our epiphones, our insights, our
ah-ha’s and breakthroughs. And also, our questions. If you wanna raise a
question or a challenge, feel free to put that out there as well. So jumping right in here, Colleen, we know that food is the
foundation of health. We’ve got an enormous
body of data right now, including thousands of studies that have been published in peer review journals. They tell us in no
uncertain terms that if we wanna be healthy, if we
wanna prevent heart disease, and cancer, and type two
diabetes and dementia, and most of the other
major ailments that we’re facing right now in the
world, we need to eat less animal products. We need to eat less
sugar and processed food. And we need to eat more whole plant foods. But then you can look at
our behavior and most of us don’t seem to be able to change. Right now, at this very
moment, there are more than 100 million Americans on a diet. 99% of those diets end in failure. And our society just
seems to keep on getting fatter and sicker. So it seems to me there’s an enormous gap between what we know and what we do. Colleen, my top question
to you to start things off is one word, why? – My answer is two words,
willful blindness, right? We have one notion about who we wanna be, who we are, how we wanna
be, how we wanna live, how we wanna feel. And then we have our
behavior, as you said. Completely opposite of even
how we perceive ourselves. I always joke that whenever
I tell someone I’m vegan, the first thing they say is
I don’t eat a lot of meat or dairy or eggs, and
yet you really don’t know how much you eat until you stop. We’re so unaware of
our habits until we pay attention to them and
that’s what habits are. The whole point of a
habit is to do something so that you’re not thinking
about it so you can save your resources and
your brain resources for doing other things
that are more important. And so we just give into that, right. So honestly, I think a lot of it, especially when it has to
do with harming ourselves or harming others, we don’t wanna believe that we’re doing something that hurts someone else or ourselves. And so we have this cognitive dissonance, we have this discomfort
with what we’re doing and how we actually want to behave. And so in order to protect
that perception of ourselves, we have to have willful blindness. We have to look away or
couch it in positive terms or deny it or justify it
or make excuses for it. And I think that’s really at the heart of what happens with us. Now knowing that, I think is helpful because it means if
we’re blind, we can see. If we’re awake, we can become, if we’re asleep, we can become awake. And it’s also, I think really helpful because I think it helps us understand why other people act the way they do. Especially, when those of us become awake and we change our behavior,
we’re inclined to say, I don’t understand. How can they not see it? How can they not change? How can they not be
aware of what’s going on? And the answer is
because willful blindness is a powerful thing and
we’ve all participated in it. It’s just really clear
to you once you become, you know, once you become awake. – Yeah, you know, I think of
habits a little bit like water. And here in California, we’ve been getting some rain recently, which is wonderful and it’s making me think
about water a little bit too. And you know, water flows in groups. And if those groups get deep enough and last long enough,
they turn into gullies and creeks, and eventually rivers. And habits are a little bit like that. Our neuro pathways, the way we think, and certainly they way we
eat is deeply habituated. And a lot of people
who are very accustomed to a certain way of eating
and living and thinking and acting, can feel really overwhelmed by the thought of changing that. And water doesn’t naturally
go up hill, it goes downhill. But what’s fascinating to
me is that if you get out there with a shovel in
your own backyard sometime and create a gully, water’s
gonna flow down there everyday if it has a way
to go down that route. And it’ll get deeper and deeper over time. And so I think that
when it comes to habits, we have the opportunity
to use our willpower, not to try to fight up
stream and do the right thing against all odds, but to create habits, to create systems, to create routines. And over time it gets easier and easier to do the right thing,
it becomes automatic. And at the end of the day,
what shapes your destiny isn’t what you do at the one peak moment when you’re passionate and inspired and listing to Colleen or
reading one of her books. It’s what you do day in and
day out when you’re tired, when you’re worn out, at
the end of a long week. Those are the things that
really we settle back in. So the key, I think,
is how we create those habit structures that
set us up for success. Now that said, however good
you are at creating those, holidays tend to be a time when
a lot of old habits set in. Number one, we’re often around people that are part of our history, right? Sort of by definition with family. And some of those histories have habits that may not be fully in keeping with what we’re up to now. But number two, a lot
of folks may also not be eating in the way that we do. And you know, they say that holidays are the most wonderful time of the year and for some people they are. But for a lot of people,
they’re also characterized by stress and debt and squabbles. And one of the places that families have the most conflict and
friction is often around food, especially when we have family members who might eat the way we do. Some of us try to
compromise our food values because we wanna just have
harmony and get along, but that doesn’t feel great if we had a spare tire around the middle. But we don’t wanna feel
like a Grinch on Christmas. So Colleen, what advice
do you have for folks who are thinking about
holidays and getting together with family and wanna do this in a way that’s in
integrity with their values, which includes the love they
wanna share with loved ones. – Yeah, it is a time
we put so much pressure on ourselves and on others as well. And we have all these expectations. And I think for me, at least the way I try to live my life, is to really try and keep those expectations in check for me. A lot of the way we
interact with other people around holidays, just regular dinners, whatever it is, day to
day, work, colleagues, really starts with how we
think about that situation long before we enter that situation. So I do think a lot of it has to do with kind of acclimating ourselves
and calibrating our minds to what we wanna get out of this. Or more importantly,
possibly is what do we want to give and what do we
wanna bring to this? And I think we can do all of those things. So I think that’s the first thing, is asking ourselves, what do
we want this experience to be and who do we wanna be in it and what do we wanna bring to it and what do we wanna get out of it. So that to me is everything. And then from there, the answers will come in terms of how you’ll interact with your family and friends, and what you literally will bring to it. Food that you’ll bring to it,
questions you’ll bring to it, requests that you might
have for your family prior to the event. I don’t think we should show up cold to an event that we’re stressed about, that we’re clenching our fists about and we’re just really stressed about. I mean, we can talk to
our families and I think communication is a huge aspect of what we all need to get better at all the time. I mean, it’s a skill
that we have to practice. So if there is a holiday coming up, well there is holidays, there’s a particular dinner coming up or an event coming up and
you’re stressed about it, especially around what am I gonna eat. What’s gonna be there for me to eat? How can I participate
in a way that I’m not making someone else feel inadequate or that they’re not serving my needs because people get very defensive
around this time of year. Because as much as we have expectations, they have expectations too. And so asking, you know,
here’s the deal mom, dad, brother, sister, friend, whoever, aunt. You know, we all know that we
live our lives differently. I am anxious about this particular event because I want it to
be wonderful and joyful for all of us. What can I do to help so that all of our needs are being served? I mean, those kinds of
conversations sound great on paper, and they can be hard. But we can have them, we can do that. And I think it makes a lot, so this is before you
even decide what to bring or what to eat or what
to serve or et cetera. I think deciding who you wanna be and how you wanna be before the event, I think is absolutely everything. And just lighten up a little bit too. I think because we put so
much weight on these holidays, that’s also what gets us
into a little bit of trouble. – Yeah, absolutely. So again, if people
wanna have a conversation in advance of a gathering, with folks, let’s suppose, who don’t
eat the way they do and don’t plan to anytime soon, what are the key tips to,
what should they say exactly? – Well it depends on what
you’re trying to get out of it. It depends on what your
conversation is about. If it is about, first of
all, again if it’s just about you feeling better about being in an environment where
you’re not supported, that might be the case. Or at least where you’re
values aren’t shared or at least where people aren’t, you know, they don’t eat like you do. First it starts with, I
think it’s so important for all of us to remember
where we came from and how we ate and where we were before we made these changes
so that we don’t think that we’re some, they’re some anomaly and we’re some special being. We just happen to have
the information align the right time for us to make a change and we were open at
that moment to do that. So first really understanding that they’re not just where you’re at, but that’s neither bad nor good. So entering that situation knowing that, that it’s remembering where we were, that we were once in
that position as well. So that’s, again, kind of
calibrating our minds to that. But if the question is, how can I, you know we want so badly to inspire the people around us and
I think we underestimate the power of just being who we are and just living the way we live. And I am not saying that doesn’t mean we can’t talk about things
we’re excited about. I talk a lot about walking that line between expressing our passion,
expressing our enthusiasm, expressing what we think is important, that we have to do that. But not being attached
to what that will do to other people, or how they will react. That’s the key because we should be able to talk about how we
feel and how good we feel and the changes we made. And that’s all important. The trick is knowing that
if we have an attachment to what someone’s going to do with that, whether we think they’re
gonna be inspired by it or wanna change by it. That’s where it really is
amazing because if we know that we’re gonna come
in and share our truth and share our enthusiasm
and not be attached to the outcome, people can read it. They know the difference. They can feel the difference
when we come in like this, and we’re like, no it’s really good. We have to do this because
animals are suffering because the environment is in trouble and because it’s really bad for all of us. They can feel that and
they immediately go, okay. – Let me out of here. – Let me out. Exactly, but if our body language and our intention and our truth
is, I feel so good. It just feels so good to reflect my values because I care so much and it just, it just really suits me
and I’m really grateful to have found this information, even our body language is more relaxed. And then what happens is people go, what do you mean, tell me more. And they kind of lean in when we’re just in this state of, I’ve
got this information, I’ve got this, if you want it, I’d love to share it with you. But you know where to
find out, here it is. And be more relaxed about it
and people kind of come in. So that’s kind of where I come from when we’re having these
interactions with family. – Yeah, yeah. You know, my friend, Susan Peirce Thompson who has been a guest
in many of our summits, talks about weight loss
and she’s developed a program that is incredibly effective in helping people to release excess pounds and break free from food addiction. And have some friends who I think could really benefit from it and you know, I’ve inspired hundreds
of thousands of people to learn about her work
and yet when it comes to my own friends who are struggling with their own weight challenges, I say, how can I tell them? Is it okay to send them a link to the quiz that you put together? And she’s like, go really gentle. You really can’t shove
it down people’s throats. If someone is dealing weight challenges, do you think they don’t know
that they’re dealing with that? Do you think they don’t care? Do you think they
haven’t stressed about it and worried about it a lot? Of course they have. And what you have to deal with also is the dynamics of guilt and shame and fear and fear of being judged. And fear of trying again and failing, and all of those dynamics
that are present, which means that as an
external person to their psyche and psychodrama, I
have to go really lightly. But I think, as you’re saying, that sharing our own lived experience is one place where there can
be respectful communication. People, the best advertisement
for healthy living is health. You know? If your smile is bright,
if your energy is strong, people ask me all the time,
I don’t know how you do it. How do you have so much energy? How are you so clear? How do you go all day? And that’s a good opportunity. Well I eat pretty well. It’s not the whole story, but
it’s a big part of it, right? And so I think that those
openings that modeling is the most powerful advertisement
for positive choices. When our own vitality shines through. When people are wondering, why aren’t you overweight like rest of us? Those kinds of things
could be really powerful. And the reality is, people
will learn when they’re ready, when they want to and not a moment sooner and not a moment later. And being available, being an ally, being a resource is wonderful. But we can’t shove it
down people’s throats. We can share, we can
offer, and we can let go. That said, one little trick that I think is pretty potent that Dr. Neal Barnard introduced me to this. If you give somebody a book or a DVD that’s educational in nature, here’s a way to make sure they engage with it. Put a little Post-It note on the book. On page 263, I read something that really made me think of you. Or chapter 13, or whatever it is. With the DVD, at minute
16:14 there’s a section that made me think of you. I bet you they will go to that page, or they will go to that part of the DVD because it pulls them in, right? So think about how to
personalize gifts like that in ways that are engaging
and connective to people. And that can be pretty juicy. So I wanna ask you, Colleen, a question that came in from one of our participants who was, let’s see, was, I’m just pulling it up here. Patricia talked about the difficulty with her husband and
her 11 year old daughter during the holidays, of giving them food that they find interesting. She said, they made their mashed potatoes with milk, butter, sour
cream, and cream cheese. She made hers with almond
milk and a little salt, and it was hard, basically they thought that theirs tasted a lot better. And similarly, with pumpkin pie. She tried to make a healthy one and it didn’t taste as good to her family as the healthier one. And this is probably not
an unfamiliar circumstance. So especially when taste
buds have been acclimated to large amounts of
animal products and sugar and processed foods. The transition can be
challenging sometimes, and it’s not always easy
to do it on a flash, like at a moment’s notice. So what are your thoughts on how to bridge that gap for people? And also, how to navigate and even for our participants who don’t
wanna feel like they’re getting second rate food. Everyone else is feasting
on this big ol’ turkey or whatever it is, and
they’re eating their little granola over in the corner. So how do we bridge that
for ourselves, personally, and also for our loved ones? – Well I will say that there is one aspect of we wanna make sure that our food does taste really tasty
and that it is first rate for us and for anyone who’s gonna try it. So the problem is, if someone’s
eating all of that fat, their taste buds are acclimated to it. And the worst thing we could do, or the worst thing anybody
can do is try something that is not as rich next to something that is super, super rich. So it will always pale, it will. That’s just the way it is. Especially we’re talking mashed potatoes with sour cream and butter
and cream and all of that. So it probably didn’t taste
as good to be really honest, but that’s not the time to test things. And that’s not the time to actually feel that that’s the right barometer. Like that’s not the time. So is it that we feel that we’re getting, that we’re not eating some as healthy, or do we feel that someone
else is judging our food, and that becomes the symbol for, well I’m failing because how
am I gonna inspire anybody to wanna eat this way if my food doesn’t taste as good, right? So we’re always dealing
with two different things. We’re always dealing with what we need and how we wanna also advocate. Because we do naturally want people to be inspired and excited
about what we’re doing because we want them to do it as well for all the reasons we talked about. So again, we have to be really clear about what it is that we’re trying to get out of this situation. So when it comes to
something that we’re making, I mean I, you know, there is a difference between saying, not eating animal products at all and having something try
to be super, super healthy. I mean, you know, with the holidays, we probably kinda
indulge a little bit more and maybe you have some non-dairy butter in our mashed potatoes,
if we wanna do that to make it feel a little special and rich. But you know, we’re not, we put so much pressure on ourselves to be the messenger of everything. And we feel that at the moment that we’re talking to people we have
to say the right thing, we have to feed them
exactly the right thing. That all the pressure
is on us at that moment to either make them vegan or not, or change their behavior or not. Or get them to eat healthier or not. And again, it just puts so
much pressure on ourselves, and then we wind up feeling like failures because we didn’t inspire
them to make a change. So we have to relax a little bit. We also have to be really clear to someone and someone who’s eating
say, something really rich like that and we’re
eating something lighter, and saying, well there is a difference. There is a difference between these two, but the effects of this
one are X, Y, and Z. So again, being kind of clear to them about what those expectations are. And then just yeah, I mean
just when it comes to the food, I have a hard time with
people making different things for their family members. I don’t think, especially women, should be short order cooks. Or that we have two different
meals for our family. The idea is that of
course we wanna be able to cook for everyone. I know, I hear from a lot of
women who deal with that still. I mean, women are still
the ones who are primarily cooking in the homes and shopping. And I hear from a lot of women who say that they are disgusted by the food they are making for their family. They don’t wanna do it, but they do because they feel they have to. So I would encourage people to
kind of get clear about that. If the agreement is that
you make for your family, what you decide, all these years, you’re the one who’s
decided what you’re making for the family and you’ve
decided that you want the family to eat healthier. And they don’t wanna put the work into it, then that’s what they eat. That’s my opinion, and
if they wanna go out and get something that is different, they have the prerogative to do that. So that’s, you know, kind
of more on a daily basis. – Sure and every family ecosystem has to navigate those in its own ways because no two families
are exactly the same, but some of these principles
can be really helpful. A lot of people struggle
also with bad habits or old habits that kick in, especially around the holidays. The average American gains 1.3 pounds over the holidays and
typically doesn’t lose it. So the obesity epidemic kind of spirals, and this is like where it jumps up on the spiral year after
year for a lot of people. But it doesn’t have to be
that way, but it often is. We heard from Mary who said I cook turkey for by dog after Thanksgiving
and I was surprised by how much it made me wanna eat turkey, and everything else typically found on the Thanksgiving table of my childhood, even though I haven’t
eaten meat for over a year. I think the smell brings back
a lot of wonderful memories. Any suggestions for items that might stimulate the sense of smell
and satisfy that craving? And also, for people who
feel like their emotional and family connectivity
is tied to those smells and those memories,
what are some other ways of recapturing the really
valid and beautiful feelings of peace and love and connection and joy and self care that we often associate with these kinds of foods? – Well you said it. So that’s what happens,
is that the smells, the tastes, the look
of whatever it is we’re talking about, that triggers the emotions, but it’s the emotions
that really matter, right? So let’s go underneath what
these symbols symbolize. So we can let it in. We can recognize it for what it is. And we can say, oh, what
actually this is triggering are my feelings of warmth
and joy and connection and tradition and family. Let me focus on that. So we don’t have to respond just because we have a stimuli, right? So we can recognize the stimuli and then we can say, what
is this triggering for us? And if it’s triggering for
us all of those emotions, that’s what I would then
encourage us to really focus on. Not focusing on the things itself because that really is a symbol. All of these things are symbols. Turkey’s at Thanksgiving is a symbol. Eggs at Easter time, it’s a symbol. You know, all of it’s a symbol
so what is does it symbolize? And then let’s focus
on what it symbolizes. But absolutely, I talk
a lot about the fact that it’s not about the turkey. It’s about the fat, it’s about the salt, it’s about the familiarity,
the texture and the flavor. So aside from the emotions
that that triggers, okay, so it might be triggering, I really want something
salty or I really want something familiar, I
want something chewy. Then okay, what can do
to go meet those needs and still get those needs met, but not do it in a way that’s
gonna compromise my values. – Yeah, absolutely, thank you. I wanna say a word right now actually about family connection
and what the holidays are really all about because
we have, in our society I think, come to associate holidays with conspicuous consumption. And kind of an orgy of indulgence when it comes to food and stuff. And we lose a lot of the
spirit of what it’s all about. I mean, Christmas isn’t
just about buying stuff and going into credit card debt. It’s about love and connection and spiritual connection
and family coming together at the winter and in the
snow and the cold times to light up our hearts and
feel connection to each other. And creating magic and a
sense of beauty for children. And these are things that
families have converged around in many different contexts and
environments and even faiths. How we sit at the table together. Whatever we’ve gone
through in the year before and have these rituals
and these traditions. And when we make the focus of a holiday the food or the stuff,
we lose the human beings that are really the memories
we’re gonna cherish. You know, food and stuff can be a doorway towards expressing love,
towards expressing connection, towards sharing and
gathering around the table. But at the end of the day, it’s the people and it’s the love that matters the most. And so I love to do simple
things with our family. Like we play games together. We go around the table and
say things we’re grateful for. I’ll share one of my
favorites, which seems to work with all different kinds of groups. Our twins and I were just
playing this a couple days ago. It’s called what is this? You just grab any household object. Get everyone in a circle in
the living room or whatever. Grab any household object, pick it up and somebody makes up
something silly like, I’ve got a bottle cap here, okay. So I could say, what is this? I can be like, oh, it’s a hat. Right? And then someone else would
say it’s a flying saucer and we go around the
circle and everyone just comes up with something silly
or funny that it might be. Oh, it’s an eye patch. And you just play with it. And people laugh
hysterically and we go around with one object, then
you grab another one. And people introduce all kinds
of random household objects. And it’s so fun, I think,
just to play with that. There’s all kinds of family
traditions you can create. Some people play games, poker, whatever. And by the end of it, they just have a new tradition in place
that’s about the connection and the fun, the laughter and the joy that we share together. So I just wanna put in a word about that and do you have any favorite ways of bonding around the holidays, Colleen? – Oh, I love that so much. Absolutely, that is really
what it’s about for us. And we don’t live close to our families, but we have created our
family here in California. Our families are both in New
Jersey, so 3,000 miles away. But we love the connection
and the community we have here with our neighbors, with our friends, and with each other. We play a lot of games with our friends whenever we get together. So I love that game, that
is absolutely adorable. We play, we do play card
games and board games and that kind of thing. And yeah, around the
holidays one of the things that we do is, there’s always some book that meant something to me that year, so I always get a copy of a book, like the same book for
a number of my friends because I want to share with
them something that I love. We are very much not
about things and stuff, but about experiences. So we have stockings
hung just because I love the way the stocking
look hung on the mantle. But inside I usually stuff some kind of, just questions, we do a lot of questions and journaling together. There’s some really fun
questions you can find online. Just questions you can ask each other. What would you do if? And you know, just spend hours and hours just talking to each other. I love the feeling of
just being, like you said, inside for us, when it’s
raining just feeling really cozy and just being
among people we love. That’s really what it’s about. – Yeah, wonderful. Another question that comes
up for a lot of people is around gifts and gift giving. And the LeeAnn said, upon receiving a gift of something unhealthful like cookies or even like Teflon coated pans, what is the best way that you appreciate that the person gave you a gift, but also let them know
you’d rather not receive something like that in the future. Would you handle this
situation differently if it were a friend versus family, and what would you do with the gift? Can you suggest something that would help avoid this situation entirely, by doing or saying something
before gift giving happens like Christmas or birthday for those who expect to receive gifts. – Yes, I think most
people know the answers to the questions they ask. They have them deep inside themselves. I don’t think I’m telling anything that you haven’t already surmised. I do think having these
conversations long before any kind of gift giving holiday, whether it’s birthday
or Hanukah or Christmas is really helpful. I think definitely talking to people, just kind of setting the expectations with your family and friends. What you’re looking, who you
are and what is meaningful to you throughout the year to that it’s not a surprise at Christmas
time or at your birthday. I definitely think not telling people when they give you a gift that is not in alignment with your values, for some people it might be leather, it could be an animal product. And it really does depend on the person. Again, you nailed it. It really depends on the circumstance, on the people, on the
context, on the relationship, on the holiday, on the gift itself. I’ve told stories about
when we have neighbors come over who are well
intentioned and don’t wanna come empty handed, so if they
don’t know that we’re already vegan and we do keep a vegan home as much as we’re able
to, it’s not like we stop people from coming in the house because they have leather shoes. It’s not that. But we do, just ask people
when we have a party like we’re having tonight. We just say, don’t worry, you
don’t have to bring anything. You’re welcome to bring
some wine if you want, but you don’t have to
bring anything at all. And if someone does,
I’ve had circumstances where when they’re leaving, you know, I’ll say thank you so much. I rather you give this
to someone who’s gonna be able to use it. So in a friendly way I can say, please, I rather you use this. We’re not gonna be able to use this. And then they can say, oh why? Oh we’re vegan, whatever. So you can have that conversation. So that would be a friendly way to do it. But if it’s a family member who thought you’d love these leather gloves, at the moment that they’re
giving you something is not the moment to say,
I don’t wanna receive it. It can hurt. So it really depends on the circumstances and the context and the relationship, but I do think establishing
these kind of rules or whatever you wanna call
them beforehand is really key. – Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, once people know they usually try to respect it. There are a few people
who are just annoyed and think you’re being puritanical. and they try to, you know, bug you. But for the most part,
I think people wanna, the point of giving you a gift is actually people think about what would
this person wanna receive? So in the long run, by giving them some advanced notice you’re helping them accomplish their job better, which is to do something
you’ll actually appreciate. – Exactly, and then I think at that point, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with, The idea for me around things, anything, is to value what it is
that we actually have. Value for me is everything. So if there is something someone gives you and you’re not going to value it, literally you’re not gonna use it, you’re not gonna value
it, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with passing it
on to someone else who will. Whether, Goodwill or just
a friend or a neighbor or someone in need. Then they’ll be able to
get something out of it. They’ll be able to use
it, but just keeping it because you think you have
to and it just sits around and creates clutter, that’s
not valuing that item. So you may not necessarily
tell that person that that gift wasn’t
for you, and then maybe throughout the year just kind of make sure people know that you’re not receiving whatever it is they gave you. So I don’t necessarily
think there’s always a value in telling people
that it’s not what you want. But I do think there’s
value in you passing it around so it’s valued by somebody else. – Yeah, absolutely. I’m jumping to a very different topic. Catherine said she wants to discover a way to use cranberries that
isn’t based on sugar. There are certain case that say holidays, and many like pumpkin or sweet potatoes are easy to incorporate, but
cranberries have her baffled. Now we all know cranberries are not sweet. They are a berry, but
they’re kind of bitter and kind of sour. So any thoughts on ways to use cranberries that don’t require sugar? – Yeah, cranberries definitely are sour. I would say use the cranberries for color. And I would say use
cranberries for creating garland for a tree or for a decoration. So running cranberries and
popcorn through a thread that you can then hang as a garland really brings out the holiday. It’s the color, right,
that’s what it’s about. And then you can put them
outside and birds can eat them. So I think there’s a wonderful
way to use cranberries that, but if you’re talking about eating them, I do think if you’re not gonna use sugar and maybe you can use
other kind of sweeteners other than a refined sugar, but I do think you’re gonna, use them in small amounts. Or dry them so that the
sweetness comes out naturally or use them for their color. – Yeah, absolutely. And just a quick word
about berries of all kinds. They’re incredibly healthy. And cranberries included, but not when you put them in a base of
high fructose corn syrup. Then it’s another story. But don’t blame the berries,
they’re pretty awesome. We have a question from Robin. She said I am still a
newbie as plant based and it’ll be my first time celebrating plant based food during
the holiday in 2018, as well as my birthday. Robin’s asking what can
I eat for the holidays? Christmas, Hanukah,
birthday, and New Years Eve. I wanna celebrate for making a huge change in food the last six months. And I wanna say, Robin, congratulations. We’re so proud of you. We’re so happy that you
are making these changes for your life and we
wanna celebrate with you. Your birthday, and all of these holidays. And we also wanna support
you in staying with it and deepening your resolve and developing a new batch of happy, healthy memories that you can carry with you. And healthy traditions that you can carry with you in the years to come. So first thing I’ll say and then I do wanna invite Colleen to talk about it more is that this month in WHOLE Life Club, and Robin, I believe you are a member, you’re getting an
incredible bunch of recipes. And for everybody watching
who is not a member, we’ll tell you at the
end of this Action Hour more about the WHOLE Life Club. But every month we have a theme. This month’s theme is
healthy, happy holidays. And so you’re gonna get recipes every week that are fabulous and
wonderful with a holiday theme. So please make use of them and enjoy them and I think that’ll answer
a lot of your questions. But Colleen, do you have any favorite tips for healthy fabulous ways
to enjoy holiday food? – There are so many ways. So yes, congratulations
and it is so wonderful. I love when people are just
in the beginning stages and there’s so much
enthusiasm and fear, I get it. But you know, when I talk
about healthful eating and obviously enjoying it
and the pleasure of it, I really talk about color a lot. So I would really encourage
you to just really think about color and
whatever you’re centering your celebrations around. Obviously, seasonal as well. There are certain colors
we associate with spring and summer and fall and winter. And so I would really
encourage you to look at what’s seasonal, look at what’s really colorful in the season. And there’s so much you can do. I mean, it depends on, I
don’t know how you’re eating or what you’re eating or
what you’re not eating, but there is a lot we
can do that just really celebrates all of the plant foods. As you probably experienced,
when you make this change, you crave things you’ve
never craved before. You taste flavors you’ve
never tasted before because as we were saying before, when your palette is so
coated with fat and salt, you can taste the subtly of plant foods. And so celebrate the flavor that’s in all of the plant foods including the spices, including the herbs,
fresh herbs, dried herbs. People really underestimate their, people talk about like,
I really need to bring more flavor into my food. Spices and herbs are sitting there. Most people have them in their kitchens and they’re collecting dust. – They are so healthy. – Yeah, and they’re so healthy
and they’re so beautiful and they’re so flavorful
and they’re so colorful. So use those spices and herbs. – Yeah, absolutely. You know, I think it’s interesting. We have our savory spices
and we have our sweet spices. And they’re often almost
kind of like a firewall between them, but it’s kind of interesting what happens when you cross those lines. When you put a little allspice or nutmeg or cinnamon into a savory dish. Or sometimes you can go the other way. People are starting to add
chili to their chocolate. It kind of works sometimes. So being creative and playful
with spices is wonderful. It’s amazing how the right spices can transform a simple, basic dish into something that feels kind of gourmet. – Agreed, and it will make
your home smell fantastic. One of things I do
around this time of year, obviously this is December, or November. Whatever, the holidays. Is it, oh my God, it’s December. – It’s December, yep. – Well so you know, in the fall, whatever, in the winter I love
just putting on the stove some water with cinnamon
stick and some nutmeg and allspice, whatever, antecedes, and just simmering that on the stove. Just making sure you remember
that it’s on the stove. And your whole house will smell, that’s what I’m gonna be doing tonight before our friends come over. It’s the most wonderful air
freshener and it’s natural, and it will definitely
trigger all of those memories that we have when we smell those flavors, and it will possibly
inspire you to cook as well. – Wonderful. Speaking of the winter and the cold, Jacqueline had a question about this. She said, living up north
in Canada where daylight is very limited and the
thermometer drops below zero, I find I turn to starchy comfort
foods more than is healthy. Do you have any strategies
for avoiding this, especially during the winter months? – Well you probably have
some thoughts about that too. I would say what does that look like because you know, you said starchy. You didn’t say carbohydrate. I do caution people to
not demonize carbohydrates because we need complex carbohydrates and they’re in all foods. So I would say if it’s more
of the refined carbohydrates, then yeah, focus more
on complex carbohydrates because this is the way we’re supposed to eat this time of year. Especially in areas where I can’t imagine how cold it is there because I’m very soft living here in California. I go to 40 degrees and I’m miserable. – Yeah, we Californians are terrible. We complain if it’s, yeah. We had to put a sweater on today. – I know, and I like just the chill. But then if it’s too windy or whatever, I really don’t leave Oakland. I don’t like going to San Francisco because it’s too cold, it’s too windy. So we’re quite soft. So I say this aware of that. However, this is the way
we’re supposed to eat. These are the foods that are meant to sustain us through the winter. Those wonderful, hearty
complex carbohydrates. Again, healthful starches
that are in potatoes, that are in sweet
potatoes, that are in yams. That are in a lot of the
complex carbohydrates. So I would say you don’t
have to reject them. It’s also a matter of
how you then flavor them. So relying more on spices
and a little bit of salt as opposed to all of the fat with it. There’s definitely ways you can combine all of the wonderful complex carbohydrates to get flavor and not feel
guilty about it, I think. – Absolutely. And you know, keep in
mind that when you have less heat from the
outside, your body has to become more of a source of heat. Which means you’re naturally inclined, whether you realize it
or not because you’re indoors a lot so it may
be a little bit distorted, but your body is naturally inclined to generate more heat in
the winter to keep up. And to be responsive to
harsh external environments. And so it’s natural that
you would wanna fuel that with the food that you need for that. I mean, our homes use more fuel
in the winter to stay warm, and so our bodies need to also. And some of that fuel is gonna come from the things that are high in energy. And carbohydrates are a great fuel source for generating heat. And as Colleen said,
going for the complex ones is really critical. But you don’t have to
stop eating vegetables. And that’s one of the key things, is maybe you are drawn to
more complex carbohydrates, but make sure you’re
getting the vegetables right through the winter,
even if they have to be frozen and thawed or whatever. Or hopefully you can buy
them in your local store because we have some pretty awesome distribution mechanisms
nowadays around food. But keep the veggies going. And also keep in mind that a lot of people do well with more soups, like
warm soups in the winter. Those can be really satisfying. And hot tea, drink lots of hot tea and keep your body warm
from the inside out. It’s a good time to just focus on warming yourself up
and that’ll also help your tummy feel happy
right through the seasons. Jacqueline had another
question and I’d love if you could touch on this, Colleen. She said, I’ll be hosting
a few days of holidays with adult children and their spouses. Some are vegan, others
are big meat lovers. I find it difficult to
pull together a meal that meets everyone’s needs and respects their lifestyle and ethical choices. How best to approach this? – Well, that’s a very good question. So again, it has to come from a place of authenticity for yourself. So you have to decide
what you want to share and what you want to give. And how you want to host
based on your values that I think you do need to respect. I think sometimes we get a little, you know, for the right reasons we wanna make sure everybody’s happy. There’s nothing wrong with that. But I think first and
foremost it is important that we respect our values and our homes. And don’t underestimate the food that you will share with people. You do not have to give them meat. First of all, we’re
talking about one party, one event, one dinner, they’ll be fine and they’ll be better without meat. So you do not have to accommodate that just because they eat meat. Trust and celebrate all of the plant foods that will satisfy them. Again, we talked before. It’s not about the meat. It’s not about the dairy. It’s not about the eggs. It’s about fat, salt, flavor,
texture, and familiarity. And when you’re infusing the
dishes that you’re making with all of those things, it could be a certain mouth feel, could be something chewy,
could be something smokey. Could be something creamy. Then you’re meeting those needs. They’re not gonna miss anything. So for instance, we’re
having a party today. We’re having two parties
today because I’m insane. So we’re having two back to back parties. One with neighbors. We have an open house for
our neighbors every year. And then we always have a
holiday party for our friends, and we’re gonna be out
of town so I thought, well since we’re having
the holiday open house for our neighbors, we
might as well have a party right afterwards for our friends. So we have like three to six
we’re having the neighbors. And then from six to whatever
we’re having our friends. And so I spent pretty
much all day yesterday cooking and baking. One of the things that I make that I love that everyone always
loves in polenta squares. Polenta is one of the
easiest things to make. And it takes no time at all. And polenta is wonderful
because it sets up. So I made it yesterday, it’s
already set up in the fridge. I’ll cut them into little squares. You can even cut them into little shapes if you have a cookie cutter
or hearts for Valentine’s day. Or, you know, use a cookie
cutter for the holidays. And then you can use
whatever toppings you like just something really, you can do, one of the toppings I
made was a Muhammara. Which is just roasted red peppers, garlic, cumin, and walnuts. And a little of Agave nectar
to sweeten it up a bit and some salt, and that’s a wonderful, or hummus, so some kind of topping for it that’ll complement it. You can also have,
mushrooms are wonderful, for that smokey wonderful chewy flavor that’s very familiar for people. A truffle, you know, a little bit of truffle salt goes a long way. A little bit of liquid
smoke in some things so you can make something
like a really nice hearty split pea soup that is so
fantastic and flavorful and perfect for this time of year. And then have a little bit of liquid smoke in there that’s gonna add
a little bit of smokey, or Chipotle peppers, if
you wanna do that, right? So the idea is to think,
what are the flavors and textures that I wanna
create and celebrate that. You do not have to give
people meat just because they eat meat, its your home, its what you’re giving to them. – Absolutely, and some of us also go to other people’s homes
and they may serve food that’s not what we’re accustomed to and, one year I was, like my family was going up to visit my
mother-in-law’s for Thanksgiving. And she was doing the big
turkey thing and you know, lots of things that we wouldn’t eat, and so we decided to make it
a potluck style Thanksgiving. And so we brought things
and we made things and we actually had a big like, everyone’s cooking in the kitchen at once, you know, the day before. And there’s all these different
things getting cooked. And they were kind enough
to like make the gravy be without the chicken stocks
they were planning to use. So that we could all share it. And what was interesting was that everyone tasted the
healthier plant-based foods that we brought and made and enjoyed them. And we had quite a feast. And so course, I made extra, beyond just what our family needed. And we weren’t all eating the same thing. But we could coexist and share the love. That was really what it was all about. And one of the foods that I found helpful ’cause I was looking, we’ll what do we do for that kind of protein thing
that replaces that turkey or the ham that a lot
of people are used to? And so we did a nutloaf. And, you know, we could put
gravy and cranberry sauce on it. And that worked really well you know, with cashews and almonds
and walnuts ground up and you know, some nutritional yeast, and, you know, a little
bit of flour to help hold it all together. And it was delicious actually with a lot of spices and
really really satisfying. So, you know, you can get creative. There’s lots of options. I think five million Americans got tofurkys this Thanksgiving. Which is, you know, for folks who are wanting to go
plant-based, its great. For folks who are
gluten-free, not so great. But you know you find what works for you. And whether its a transitional thing or just a whole new thing,
there’s always ways. And I think when you’re going to parties or gatherings of any
kind and you don’t expect the food to be what you’re used to, consider bringing something
and bringing enough to share. And that can really help. Marsha actually asked
about this, she said, she’s eating the Christmas
meal with her church family. And she’s feeling a
little anxious about it. She won’t be able to eat before the meal because its after Sunday school in church. And their gonna be serving a
lot of things she doesn’t eat. So she decided to make a big
salad to share with everyone. And her husband decided to
cook some sweet potatoes in a crock pot and bring them as well. She said we don’t like all the brown sugar people put in sweet potatoes. I hope this will be enough for me to eat. And she asked do you have
any other suggestions? And I just wanna say,
Marsha, congratulations on spreading the love
and bringing a salad, not just for you, but
share, that’s beautiful. That really is beautiful. That’s the spirit of the holidays I think. Its about sharing and giving and sharing what works and
what we love, right? And great on the sweet potatoes. Colleen, any other suggestions on what they might wanna bring? – Yeah, I love all of those
suggestions that you said and I love the idea
that we bring something for everybody to enjoy. I mean, it really is a gift. And there are a couple things
that I wanna say about that. So one thing too is that we really underestimate how much
what something looks like affects how we experience it. And that goes for people that are still consuming animal products. So you talked about the loaf
as something that is similar. You know, we slice it,
giving us that familiarity. It’s sliced on a plate,
its more of a brown color, it can have gravy on it. So that’s kind of meeting all those needs. And I think also a lot of
what when we’re thinking about what a plate looks like,
having a focal point, that’s I think what a lot
of that is about, the loaf. Its the protein but I think a lot of it is its a focal point. We think everything else are side dishes even though cultures around the world don’t think of them as side dishes, they would be the main dish. So we just have this notion
of what a plate looks like, and we’re used to that
focal point of the protein and then the side dishes, and
if you remove the protein, the animal protein, you’re
just left with side dishes. And so that seems inferior. So, just kinda like, rethinking
of what a plate looks like. So a loaf is a great idea to replace that again, for familiarity, but
also, think about a focal point. So stuffed anything is
a fantastic focal point. It could be a stuffed squash, you talked about the sweet potatoes, you could do it with that. But even just a stuffed acorn squash or little pumpkins or stuffed tomato, this season wouldn’t be for tomatoes, but a stuffed mushroom or portabella. Or using something like ramekins and having a wonderful
risotto in the ramekin. You can also do something which is called a timbale, which means drum, right? So you have something
like a small ramekin, you have a really
beautiful, I have a risotto butternut squash recipe with sage. It’s fantastic, right? So what you do is you make that and then you put it in the ramekin and then when you’re ready to serve it, you turn it upside down on the
plate, lift up the ramekin, and now, you have this beautiful
form that is a focal point. You can put a little,
you know, some fresh sage or something on it, right? So always think in
terms of what’s gonna be really inviting to the eye. And the other thing I would say I know it sounds really silly or simple but the way we talk about
and name the foods we share also impact people. So, if we just say, yes,
I’m bringing a tofu loaf, someone who is not thinking the way we are would go, that sounds disgusting, right? I don’t want that at all, that’s nothing. I don’t care about
tofu, I don’t like tofu. But if we bring something,
and I do think bringing things that are more familiar to people like stuffed squash
rather than a tofu loaf, will make people more inclined to eat it. But calling it something like, a fall celebration stuffed squash or something that really sounds inviting as apposed to alternative
or replacement to people. That is, that really makes a difference in terms of how we experience
the thing that were eating. When I say we, I mean
also how others experience the food that we’re sharing with them. – Yeah, absolutely, thanks for that. One of the family members some of us share homes
with is our felines. And Denise commented, she
said that you, Colleen, were critical to her successful transition from vegetarian to vegan and she said, your podcasts gave me the information, courage, and resolve I needed. She says, I know she recognizes that our cats need meat to survive, and I’d love to know what she feeds them. Cat food is the only meat I buy but I always feel guilty knowing
those animals suffer. How do you approach that one? – I know, I approach it with a little bit of willful blindness myself because they are obligate carnivores and I do love having cats
I get to take care of. And that’s not gonna change and you know, they are number one for
me, they are my priority. And so it is difficult, I mean, I get it. I do, you know, you can feed
them a little less meat. You can supplement their diet, maybe about ten percent
of it with plant foods. They will, in the wild, eat plant foods through the stomachs of
the animals they eat. But I wouldn’t go more than ten percent. I know there are a lot
of anecdotal stories of people who have very
healthy vegan cats, and I’m thrilled about that,
I’m absolutely thrilled. I am not willing to take
that chance with my cats. I did try like many
years ago with our cats, Simon and Shoester, who
are no longer with us, but Shoester had really bad reaction and I’ll never know if it was from the vegan food I was feeding them. He got Addison’s disease
which most cats don’t get. And had to be on prednisone
the rest of his life and then, he got diabetes
from the prednisone. So, I’m not willing to take that chance. So, I do feed my cats canned. I don’t feed them dry food. Especially with male cats, I’ve had male cats who have had problems with their urology, so I do
feed them canned foods. And I do feed them aquatic animals. I don’t feed them land animals. Some vegans I know feed
their cats lands animals because their larger
animals and so there are fewer animals so they kind
of quantify it that way. We all have to kind of make our decision when it comes to our cats. Dogs do great, but the cats
are obligate carnivores. – Yeah, you know, and its interesting for those of us that want
a more compassionate, more loving world. It is one of those quandarys
some of us face, right? I think it cuts right to the same thing we face with family dynamics because maybe our family members
aren’t obligate carnivores but some of them act like
it a little bit sometimes. And, at the end of the day,
we choose to love people no matter what they eat. You know, and love animals,
no matter what they eat. And keep doing the best
we can with what we’ve got but remember that, if you
want a more compassionate world, and that might even
be what motivates some people who want to go plant-based
in the first place, then lets bring compassion
to all of our relations. Let’s bring love to all of our relations. And I keep remembering
what its all about, right? It’s not about whose
right and whose wrong. It’s not about pushing
our ideology on people, it’s about standing for something. And, personally, I want
to stand for health and vitality and love and beauty
and goodness in the world. And I want my food choices and my holidays and my relationships to
be expressions of that. And so, we balance that and
we don’t make the perfect end into the enemy of the good because at the end of the day,
you could be so perfect in one domain, and then
you look at another domain, and you’re totally not, right? And we have to just do the best we can with what we’ve got. Some people I know are
really ferociously vegan, and they’re lonely, and they don’t have a social life, right? Except for people who agree with them. So, at the end of the
day, how much influence are we gonna have if we only talk to people who already think the way we do and agree with us about everything? So, learning to live with differences graciously and respectfully and lovingly and constructively is, I think, one of the opportunities we have. And focusing on the big goal, which I think, at least for me, is a good life and a happy
life and a contributing life that serves the people I care about. So, Colleen, we’re nearing the end of our time here right now. And I wanna say for
all of our participants we’re not going to get
to all of the questions that are being submitted
on the broadcast page. There’s some great ones. But if you’re finding that
you’re hungry for more, or if you’re interested in
pulling some of these threads of wisdom through to your
life and making changes to get the results you
want, then in a moment, I’m gonna tell you more
about the WHOLE Life Club which we just launched a month ago. It’s an online membership
program and we have a very simple goal in this. We want to help you to
take intelligent action so that you can get lasting results. The fact of the matter is
that cancer and heart disease and type two diabetes and all
the other chronic illnesses we face in the world right now don’t care a heck of a lot what you think or what you know or how
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Colleen is gonna need to go and I will invite you to stay on with us to learn more about this program and how it works and how you can take advantage of a special discount that is only available if you sign up before midnight tonight. Colleen, since you’re gonna have to go in a few moments, is there anything more you wanna say about why you
have chosen to stand for healthy food and what you
think is really at stake here. – Yeah, I mean, the
last question and answer my answer for it gets at the heart of it. There are so many
imperfections in this world and there are a lot of
things wrong with this world. And we can’t solve all of them, we can try and I think we should aspire to, but we are not going to solve everything. Rebecca Solnit, she’s a
writer I admire so much. She said, this is Earth,
it will never be Heaven. And it is imperfect, and for
me, that’s what being vegan is about is about doing the best I can. But I’m never going to be perfect. But how wonderful that there are so many things that we can
do to make a difference. How wonderful there are so many ways we can actually manifest our values of compassion and wellness. That to me is the point. It’s a matter of what we focus on. We can focus on all the
ways we’re imperfect, we can focus on the fact that
we can’t feed our cats vegan, we can focus on the fact that, you know, our tires have, you know,
animal products in them. Or that we’re gonna kill some
insects as we are driving. I mean, we can focus on
that and we can think of all of the ways that we
can’t make this perfect world, or we can focus on all
the things we can do. And that’s why I do what I do, it just feels good, it just feels right. And I really wouldn’t
want it any other way. So focus on what you can
do, not on what you can’t. And as I say all the
time, don’t do nothing because you can’t do everything. Do something, anything. Everything we do has an impact. Everything we do makes a difference. We don’t get to decide whether we do make a difference or not, we get to decide only
whether the difference we inevitability make
is negative or positive. And to me, that’s empowering
rather than depressing. And that’s the message I try to convey. – Yeah, beautiful, you know,
Martin Luther King said, you have no moral authority with those who can feel your underlying contempt. When we judge people,
when we pathologize them, then we lose moral standing
in the relationship. And I would say that the same
thing goes inward as well. That often we are our
own fiercest critics. And you know, we’ve been talking a lot in this Action Hour
about family and friends. But lets remember that we ourselves are also in this journey too of course. And we are also all works in progress, all creative, wonderfully flawed, wonderfully perfectly imperfect humans. And so, to hold love and
compassion with yourself. And if you slip up a little bit, like the point isn’t to blame yourself, the point is to get back on track, lovingly and respectfully and keep going. So with infinite love and
respect for all of us, in this journey of life, I wanna thank you Colleen, for your wisdom and your heart and your passion and your creativity and your culinary genius. And I wanna thank all of our
participants for being here. And let me say how deeply I appreciate your time and attention right now. Everyone who’s with us,
I know that you care enough to get informed
and to wanna put what you’re learning into action. You know that we can
do better as a society. And something more is possible and that its practicable, and together, we are changing our menus
and our lives and our world. So, if you wanna support our mission, and set yourself up for success
on your healthy eating path, in a moment, we’re gonna tell you more now about WHOLE Life Club. It’s a membership program
we just recently opened. It’s gonna go on sale the
first Saturday of each month. And today is that day. So as we complete this Action Hour, I wanna invite you to stay on
to find out if its for you, and so, you can take advantage
of the special offer, that is only available
until midnight tonight. Of course, if you’re already a member, you probably won’t be
interested in this next part, unless you wanna remind yourself, what a great choice
you made by joining in. So Colleen, we’re gonna let you go now. And thank you again so
much for joining us. – Thanks Ocean, thanks
everyone, happy holidays! – And now for the rest of us,
its time for our transition. So thank you for staying on to learn more about WHOLE Life Club. I know a lot of people get inspired about cleaning up their diet
and changing their life. They know it matters, they
have the best of intentions, but then as they as they
move along on the path, maybe they get busy, or get confused, or lose momentum and they wind up not making the progress they hoped for. But as we know, our lives
are on the line right here. And the status quo is a fast
track to immense suffering. We created WHOLE Life Club because we are sick and tired of seeing people who have the best intentions,
fall by the wayside. And we wanna help you succeed
and really thrive long term. So heres the plan, every
month, WHOLE Life Club has a theme, this month’s
theme, for example, is eating to survive the
holidays, healthy and well, and have happy and healthy holidays. And next month, we’re gonna
focus on detoxification and cleansing and starting the
new year on the right foot. Month after that, we’re
gonna focus on heart health and how you can have healthy
cardiovascular function. At the start of every
month, we’re gonna hold another Action Hour with
a special quest leader focusing on that month’s theme. When you’re a member, you get premium access to all the
Action Hours, including the chance to submit questions in advance. And ongoing access to the
recordings, the transcripts, and a followup Action
Checklist afterwards. Every week, you’ll also get a new set of chef created whole
food, plant-based, recipes that are nutritious,
affordable, easy to prepare, and that taste amazing. And you get menu suggestions to help you plan balanced and nourishing meals. And every month’s theme,
the recipes focus on that month’s theme. So this month, we’re
doing a lot to look at holidays, and wonderful meals
to share around the holidays. I’m gonna send you another
short Action Video and Checklist every week to help you make progress with your Food Revolution. And you’re going to get
to join in a community of health-minded people to share insights, to receive guidance, to
spread the food revolution, to build friendships, and
to help you to achieve your lifestyle goals. We’ve worked diligently
to make this membership as affordable as possible
while also having the resources we need
to able to sustainably offer you tremendous support. So if you’re interested in joining us, then now, is a great time because if you sign up from this page before midnight, you can
get a $100 annual discount. So, if you’re thinking about joining in, then please stay with us right now to find out more or just go ahead and click that button and sign up now. So, getting specific, heres how it works. WHOLE is an acronym, it
stands for Welcoming Healthy Organic Lifestyle Empowerment. We wanna dispel confusion by giving you solid credible wisdom from
experts that you can trust. We wanna help you to
cultivate healthy habits. So that you can make healthy choices on the good days, and
also on the hard days. And we want to end
loneliness or isolation. We want to give you a powerful community that can support you and
that can inspire you. Every week, I’m gonna send
you another short video describing a simple action you can take to move your food revolution forward. I’ll also send you an Action Checklist with some really simple steps you can easily take to
build healthy habits and to optimize your healthy lifestyle. We’ve brought on the
brilliant plant-based chef and renowned healthy eating
blogger, Katie Simmons, to provide five more fabulous
recipes every single week. These recipes are all delicious. They’re healthy, they’re easy to prepare, they’re affordable, and their fun to share with friends and loved ones. They also connect each month’s theme. So, for example, this
month, we have recipes that feature foods for the holidays and how to survive the holidays
happily and healthfully. Next month, we’re going to include recipes that will focus on detoxification. Katie will also give you
menu planning guidance and be available to answer your lifestyle and food prep questions. And, speaking of questions,
let me tell you about the best part of all and that’s the community. I don’t know if you’ve ever felt like you had to swim upstream just to do the right thing for your health. But, the fact of the matter is, that we live in a toxic food culture and most of our fast
foods and convenient foods that are all around us,
are also junk foods. In this context, its
easy for a lot of folks to feel lonely or isolated. One of our top goal with WHOLE Life Club is we want to create a
safe and a supportive community where you
can start conversations on things that matter. Where you can get
support when you need it. Where you can share
challenges and successes and make some new friends. That’s what its all about really, its connection, its
relationships, its people. A friend of mine says, do you want to know what kinda person you’re gonna be later in life, look at who
you’re hanging out with now. The people we surround ourselves with have a huge influence on who we become. So we created a private
custom membership platform. Its not on Facebook. And it lets you start
or join in conversations on topics that matter to you. So if you’re a parent or a grandparent, wanting support around
raising healthy kids, or if you got a spouse or a housemate who doesn’t eat the same way you do, or if you’re caring for an aging parent or if you’ve got a loved one whose fighting a serious disease, you’re gonna find kindred spirits who can relate, who can support you, and who can inspire you. The community is moderated by our amazing community
coordinator, AnnMarie Roth and Katie Simmons and I are also on there engaging regularly. So if you wanna check it out right now, while I’m talking about it, You can just click on the button for it that’s under this broadcast
on our broadcast page. In fact, if you already
know this is for you, then, please feel free to click on over and join in right now and we will be so happy to welcome you. And while this club is
open for registration every single day of the year, including tomorrow as well, The sale price is only available one day this month, and that’s today. So if you wanna save
more than $100 per year, this is your chance. The regular price is $247
a year, or $29 per month. But today, before midnight tonight, you can join in for just
$147 a year, or $19 a month. The moment that you register, you’ll gain instant access to a potent collection of bonuses,
the moderated member community forum, amazing recipes, special reports, and more. And you can look forward to having a steady flow of support in
good times and in hard times. That’s gonna help you to implement and to sustain and to optimize
your healthy lifestyle. Now, I know a lot of
people, probably a lot of folks watching right
now are do-it-yourselfers. If you are, right now
you might be thinking, this all sounds great and I could probably just do this myself. I could buy a cookbook,
and I could make it happen. And if that works for you, fabulous. I think self-reliance is an
absolutely wonderful thing. But the reality is, things often go faster and they go better when you have ongoing support from people who are really expert in helping apply
these principles effectively. One of our top goals with WHOLE Life Club is we wanna pull together
decades of practical experience. I don’t know a lot of
people who got the time to do all the research on their own. But right now, you don’t have to. You can learn what we’ve learned. You can adapt the skills
that we’ve developed. And in the process, you can powerfully accelerate your own health journey. The food culture that we
live in, can be so hazardous. I say you should not have to swim upstream by yourself in order to do the
right thing for your health. WHOLE Life Club is here to give you a new courage that pulls you steadily and powerfully
in the right direction. So, right now, until midnight, you can get the entire WHOLE Life Club for a single simple monthly
payment of just $19. Or you can pay for a year all at once, and get an even further savings, bringing your price down to just one annual payment of $147. That’s $100 discount
off the regular price. This discount opportunity
expires at midnight. And keep in mind, we offer a 60-day total satisfaction, 100% better-than-money-back guarantee. So again, if you know you wanna join in, just click on the button and you can gain instant access for this special discount price. We just started off in the last month, but already the feedback we’re getting is that WHOLE Life Club is a game changer. We’re hearing from so many people who feel the instant and palpable sense of relief that they get when they join. This sense that they’re
on the right track, so they don’t have to do it alone. That they have resources and support every step of the journey. And its also about not just nailing it but optimizing it, taking
it to the next level. So if you ever feel stressed or tired or strained by trying to eat right, or if you ever feel like healthy eating is more confusing
than it should be, if you ever feel lonely or isolated, or just want more friends and allies, to bounce things off of, or if you wanna take your healthy
eating to the next level, if you feel like, your pretty much got the basics in place
but you wanna go further, then this is for you. The truth is, knowledge
without action is weak. And action without
knowledge can be reckless. But when you combine
action with knowledge, you become an unstoppable force. That can change your life
and can change your world. And now, I wanna close with a thought. I think that whether we want
to acknowledge it or not, we’ve all got a choice
to either be accomplices in the status quo, or to be
everyday revolutionaries. So, if you wanna be effective
in challenging and changing the status quo, for
yourself and for your world, you need to know the truth. You need to be informed by knowledge. Where your food comes from, and what its impact is on your life and your health is critical information. The more that you know, the more power you have to take meaningful
and effective action. You more you know, the more
powerful you will become to live the life you were born to live. The better able you will be
to bring your food choices into congruence with your
purpose, with your passion. Your mind will be clearer. Your heart will be more at peace. And your body will thank you
for the rest of your life. So I wanna thank you so
much for your partnership in the Food Revolution. And for those of you who
sign up for WHOLE Life Club, the transformation begins
the moment you join in and we can wait to share it all for you. Right now is a great
moment to click on through and sign up now. Whatever you decide, I
wanna wish you an absolutely beautiful day and beautiful holiday season for you, for your loved
ones, for your world. Bless you and have a
beautiful, beautiful day.

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