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My 30-Day Self Experiment With Nasal Probiotics For Chronic Sinusitis (TGIF Ep.3)

August 17, 2019


– By the end of this video, you’ll see the results of my 30-day trial that I’ve done to improve the bacteria, the flora, in my nose, by using probiotics so I can prevent sinus infections and reduce postnasal drip and stuffiness. (gentle, upbeat music) How’s it going guys? This is Chris, and welcome back to another episode of TGIF, Talking Gut Immuno Fridays. Where we talk about gut health, and improving the immune system through lifestyle choices. For the last 30 days,
I’ve been doing a trial of using a specific
species of Lactobacillus, Lactobacillus sakei, that I’ve explained the rationale for this in my previous video, that I’ll put in the description below. I’ve been using this bacteria in the hopes that I can
balance out some of the flora in my nose and sinuses, so I’m not so prone to
chronic sinus infections. So far, the results have
been incredibly encouraging. I’ve only been doing this
for slightly over 30 days, and I’ve tracked my data every single day. And I’ll show those results to you in a chart in a little bit here. But first I wanted to walk
you through the process. Please note that this is
something I did at my own risk, and there’s certainly always risks with self experiments such as this. The process itself was simple. I found out about this culture called B-2, which is an isolated strain
of Lactobacillus sakei. From the previous video, you
can see for more information why I chose this strain. I actually bought this, and it was shipped from
New Zealand with ice. And then I’ve been using
this for the last 30 days. The process would go like this. Because Lactobacillus sakei is vulnerable to heat and oxygen, I kept it in an airtight container, I sealed it off using a vacuum sealer. And what I would do, is
I would take this powder, I would take this powder, this probiotic, that is, by the way, used
also in meat preservation to kill off things like listeria. And I would dissolve that in the water. So I place the culture into the water, I let it dissolve for about four minutes. I put enough in there so it’s a relatively cloudy consistency. And I let this sit for about four minutes so the bacteria can
dissolve into the water. After the bacteria is dissolved in the water for about four minutes, then I drink part of, first I swish around. (swishing water) So I coat my throat in this bacteria. I took a little swig of that. And then I’m going to repeatedly coat the inside of my nose, both nostrils, several times. And then I just breathe normally. This was some filtered water. And that’s pretty much it. Now I’m gonna show you the
results from this trial. So what we have here are
the results from my study, which started on 1/27/2017, and ended 2/27/2017. I rated my symptoms on
a scale from zero to 10, and then the date is on the x-axis here. So I had a sore throat in the morning. PND is postnasal drip. Stuffiness, just a general sensation of stuffiness in the nose. Mucus, 10 being a thick
yellow, zero being none at all. And stuffiness would be like, completely clear, or completely clogged. Now if you’ve seen some
of my other videos, I put “need for Sinupulse” here. And what I mean by that is, I felt this strong desire that I needed to use my pulsating sinus
irrigator if it were a 10, because I always felt like I was at the borderline of getting sick. Now, when I started,
this was a perfect time for me to start this, because I was just getting
over a sinus infection. And I know how my body
recovers from these things, ’cause I’ve been dealing
with them for so long. So, I know the progression of how quickly I get over these in my own body. Now, as I started this experiment, the effects, within two
days, were profound. I mean, even within one day,
I was noticing a difference. You can see that that feeling,
like I needed a Sinupulse, particularly the mucus
dropped off very quickly within two days, there. The mucus was still
there, but it was clear. And even the postnasal drip started to make its way down as well. Stuffiness kind of went all
over the place a little bit, but overall had a downward trend. By about the end of the
first week in February, I had a little bit of a spike, ’cause the weather patterns were changing here in Michigan, a little bit again. It was warming up abnormally in February. So a brief little spike in the sore throat in the morning. What I found most profound is how much I feel like I need the Sinupulse. I feel like it just needs to be there a couple days a week now, versus, I desperately
need to do it every day in order to keep myself from getting sick. So that’s huge. So I would call this a
monumental success for me. I’m going to continue to track this data. Love to hear any questions you might have, or if you’ve done anything similar. If you watch my other video, Nasal Probiotics for Acute
and Chronic Sinusitis, which I’ll but in the description below, you’ll see where I got this idea from, the website I got this idea from, and why I chose this particular strain. Obviously, a major disadvantage
to this is the cost. The cost of this, I bought
three of the packets, which would get me about
three months of this, for $100. And that was with the
shipping and handling and everything, from New Zealand. And it is very vulnerable to heat, and it is vulnerable to air as well. You have to have a way to
be able to seal the product, which again, is another disadvantage. Otherwise, it won’t be
potent nearly as long, as it’s exposed to more and more oxygen. Or you can also find this bacteria in certain kimchis as well. And the only way you’re
gonna know is if it’s fresh, and you do some trial and error. Once that process is complete, I put the sealed container
back in the freezer, so it’ll last longer. Please note there’s some obvious
limitations to this study. This was the only major lifestyle thing I changed in the last month, and I think, in my case, the results were profound as
you can see from the chart. However, there’s certainly other variables that could’ve come into play. Particularly, the weather was changing a lot here in Michigan, a lot of heating up and cooling down. But usually that would make my
sinuses even more vulnerable. So I feel a lot stronger,
feel a lot better lately in the last month. I’m gonna continue to monitor this over the next several months. So always check back on the channel, and I’ll give you updated
results over the next few months. This has been another episode of TGIF. If you enjoy this video,
subscribe and hit the little bell, so you never miss another episode. Thanks a lot for tuning in, guys. And I look forward to
seeing you next Friday. (cheerful strumming)

48 Comments

  • Reply Dr. Chris Sovey March 10, 2017 at 11:27 pm

    Every Friday is Talking Gut Immuno Fridays, where we focus on gut health and enhancing your immune system through lifestyle changes. Be sure to subscribe and ding the bell so you never miss another episode!

  • Reply Dr. Chris Sovey March 10, 2017 at 11:28 pm

    I'm happy to answer any questions you may have or your own thoughts.

  • Reply Mobstar Hipstar March 12, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    Have you ever tried Irish Sea Moss? Its a nutritious seaweed popularized by the late Dr. Sebi. It does wonders for asthma, allergies and sinus infections. I healed from nasal polyps disease n sinusitis but still have very mild asthma from slip ups on my diet…still irish sea moss helps me with that almost immediately and I can get off Advair and sleep during the night.

  • Reply Nomad March 13, 2017 at 3:09 am

    I have a thick rubber like yellow infection that will not cure with anything.
    i have been sick for years, makes me very low power and pain.
    Do you think a sinus rinse with this is ok and are they a transient bug or do they live in sinus?

  • Reply Jade Rule May 14, 2017 at 7:57 am

    Love your videos just subbed
    Everyone listen to him he is spot on! This culture is amazing

  • Reply Jade Rule May 14, 2017 at 8:01 am

    This strain can cure fungal infections which cause most sinus infections caused from fungus. Depends what it causing your infection but if it's fungal you will improve with this 100%

  • Reply Jade Rule May 14, 2017 at 1:04 pm

    Which website did you buy it from in New Zealand?

  • Reply Andrew Park June 1, 2017 at 4:43 pm

    Thank you very much for your enlightening posts, Dr. Sovey! I ordered Bactoferm F-RM 52 US . It is from CHR Hansen. Would it be alright to use it instead of SafePro B2?

  • Reply Morgan June 27, 2017 at 8:45 am

    Hi

    Thanks for posting your findings, it was interesting to note your results so far, hopefully you will continue to get a good experience from using those probiotics.

    Continuing to use my Sinupulse with an isotonic solution, and a weak solution of povidone iodine, has certainly helped me to clear my chronic sinus infection. My mucous has gone from green to amber to clear.
    I still feel the need to use the Sinupulse and continue to do so. I will start to leave out the povidone iodine as there is not longer any infection there and I guess that the iodine will do as good a job at killing the needed bugs as it will at killing the more unpleasant type.

    I have started taking Bromelain….

    http://wholehealthchicago.com/2009/05/11/bromelain/

    …as a supplement and I'm hopeful that it will help with the stuffiness I feel.

    I did test out, used it once only, an OTC medicated nasal spray and within 20 mins both of my nostrils were open and clear. That was a wonderful feeling…! However I am reluctant to use that form of medication long term if I can find a more natural and sustaining relief elsewhere.

    I had read an article about using a hypertonic solution for the nasal rinses, to help with inflammation….

    http://www.sinussupport.com/reduce-nasal-inflamation/

    I would not know enough of the validity of that suggestion as it concerns me regarding the potential to irritate my nasal linings rather than soothe them.

    The quest for sinus and nasal relief continues…..

    Best wishes to other sinus sufferers and thanks again for posting these videos.

    Anyone know the correct ratio to use of salt, non iodine and no caking agents, and baking soda when making an isotonic solution to irrigate..?

  • Reply sOn flower September 7, 2017 at 4:15 am

    Why are you orange …u look like you have been snorting turmeric and using it for hand lotion…probiotics r awesome tho

  • Reply Noura Jl September 15, 2017 at 7:45 am

    Hello can i use normal probiotics pills ?????? Please answer i have very chronic sinus infection that causes me a lot of issues with my tonsils and mouth alos deep dark circles around my eyes i really want to get rid of it😭😭😭😭

  • Reply kathryn peterson September 16, 2017 at 10:00 pm

    i haven't tried to use pb's theough ny nose but since i started taking probiotics my sinus problems have improved a lot.

  • Reply Steven Siegel September 19, 2017 at 1:47 am

    I like your program today. I would just make one suggestion. Maybe you should put the probiotic in your nose from a separate glass so that you do not mix germs from your mouth into your nose.

  • Reply Misael Valdivia September 25, 2017 at 9:38 pm

    Can I use probiotic solutions with enzyme pills for this ?

  • Reply fred slawson October 12, 2017 at 1:29 am

    Okay I went to the Chr Hansen website and found nowhere to order this without being a company. HOW DO I ORDER THIS SAFEPRO B2?

  • Reply Tineke Williams October 18, 2017 at 4:54 am

    I am a New Zealander and never heard of it so will have to ask around. Many thanks!!!

  • Reply joao dossantos November 11, 2017 at 5:24 pm

    Hi dude i apreciate you.
    But i have sinusitis chronic and polyps grew up on my nose two of both for 5 years. And i drink carrot mixed with black grapes juice and put some black coffee without sugar in my nose. After 3 weeks my sinusitis chronic completely gone. and for 3 days more, my sinus polyps, feel out from my nose. Thanks

  • Reply Ramon David November 12, 2017 at 4:48 am

    You can get the stuff now for less on Amazon:
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075D6CS5M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=AKLSC38F5B32V&psc=1

  • Reply Jeffrey Risher December 13, 2017 at 9:01 am

    I believe you might have common method bias here.

  • Reply Gemma Ferrari January 6, 2018 at 3:54 pm

    AMAZON SELLS NASOBIOTEX – Sakei probiotic

  • Reply Gemma Ferrari January 6, 2018 at 4:01 pm

    I put hot pepper powder in my nostrils,  that quickly generates a lot of secretion, then blow it all out. I also make a nose spray with Johnson's baby shampoo and distilled water, that breaks up biofilm.  I chew raw garlic cloves. Sick of taking antibiotics.  This only happens in fall and winter.  No problems the rest of the year.

  • Reply Nacho Mendoza February 14, 2018 at 12:20 am

    can you give us an update almost a year later if it keeps working for sinusitis/sinus infections? Please i would like to know as you know they are expensive and im willing to buy it but only if i know that has helped you with you sinuses. Thank you

  • Reply Peter Morgan February 23, 2018 at 10:03 am

    Do you carry this out once a day?

  • Reply Jay Richter March 10, 2018 at 1:44 am

    Chris, can you call me or how do we contact you?

  • Reply Larissa Stenger March 23, 2018 at 5:04 pm

    Great video, thank you very much for the information. I just got this product from NZ. How many times a day would you apply this probiotic?

  • Reply UrbanExplorer1000 June 24, 2018 at 1:41 am

    Chris i have an overabundance of coagulase-positive staph in my nasal cavity. I also have a lot of sigestive problems including SIBO. is it possible the staph in my nose can be causing this? how can i treat? i have high potency probiotics with lacto and bifido strains but those dont really belong in the nose. however they do not colonize so maybe they can still have a benefit? also is l.sakei a histamine producing strain?

  • Reply Lind95 MG July 8, 2018 at 12:25 am

    I would definitely not take any chances of introducing more bacteria from my mouth to an already infected nasal passage by drinking from this solution before putting it inside my nose.

  • Reply Shy Thomas July 27, 2018 at 12:56 am

    It's pronounce sake-i. Like sake.

  • Reply Ernesto Perez September 23, 2018 at 12:09 am

    Have you tried a nasal spray bottle to deliver the probiotics further into the nose?

  • Reply sarah amin September 27, 2018 at 1:22 pm

    Hey I’m doing exactly what you said because I suffer from sinus inflammation with post nasal drip- exactly how you describe your symptoms. Especially with the feeling like you’re always on the verge of sickness. I ordered my own lactosinus and I’m excited to see if it will help me!

  • Reply iLhan Keskin October 10, 2018 at 12:57 pm

    Hello everybody from Belgium. I wanna thank you for this video and what saved me from sinusitis of 20 years. The best effect is snuffing probiotic in the nose and not to much at once, twice a day was enough for me. Now I don't use any spray and sleep as a big baby. Just try it for 1week

  • Reply Dr Ben Lynch October 26, 2018 at 10:56 pm

    I've been experimenting using probiotics inside the nose with ProBiota HistaminX by Seeking Health. Little evidence but so far three people have experienced good results. I'm curious to see if you experience similar or better results using ProBiota HistaminX.

  • Reply JWhite _whoRu November 13, 2018 at 10:45 am

    I do this with garlic..I cut it up..I put it in a little cup and water and I put the cutips and I let it soak in the cup for a few mins and I put it in my nose and ears..I do this every day mostly…and I'm from Michigan also bro

  • Reply Chris Gonzales November 16, 2018 at 3:00 pm

    My problem sinuses tend to be the sphenoids – they are way back and up. I would be tempted to rinse with this stuff (and you have to lay down to get back to those sinuses). I'm wondering if salt would be toxic to these microbes…that is would you need to be careful to get the saline level really perfect? Rinsing without salt is very painful!

  • Reply Gary Hawkins December 21, 2018 at 10:36 pm

    Interested in knowing your improvement since you started almost 2 years ago?

  • Reply Franco Barbagallo January 21, 2019 at 3:19 am

    Could you upload a link to buy this product? Can’t find it

  • Reply Adam Peter Garcia-Varner January 22, 2019 at 9:20 pm

    Terrific Video..!
    I was also seeking relief from general light uneasiness, and I started eating only fermented foods especially only fermented cheese, or meat if I am not eating vegan.. and it is terrific

    I then decided to start eating yeast, and that also helps extremely fast and easily to make you feel great. Also I have started eating raw tempeh, and it cleans the body extremely fast, and powerfully wit a beneficial mold culture.

    I found this video from looking up an experiment I am pursueing of eating the bacteria that creates sausage, because I am from the year of the pig in astrology/ also a cancer/crab, and I have found that is the reason I believe why I can only eat fermented foods , and why I am mostly attacted to fermented sea food.

    Consider these ideas..
    Keep up the good work, and the info is exactly right.

    ///also do you know the miracle of ECM from Pig bladder which can regenerate any tissue?

  • Reply Sandra M February 25, 2019 at 3:45 pm

    Can you please provide a link to the probiotic so I can buy it? Thank you!

  • Reply Carly Bo Barly March 28, 2019 at 1:55 am

    I would love to see a follow up video to this. DO you feel like this is still helping you 2 years later?

  • Reply David Masenheimer March 28, 2019 at 11:27 pm

    I have been using non-fat pure yogurt in distilled water as a nasal spray for about 5 years. it's been a game changer for me. My son also had chronic sinus issues and the Dr's were talking about removing his tonsils and adenoids. Since using the yogurt spray he has had no issues.

  • Reply J Medlen April 16, 2019 at 8:04 pm

    I'm a little worried about you cuz you been shooting stuff up your nose and around your eyes is black.??

  • Reply Simon Osborne April 20, 2019 at 9:13 pm

    Can anyone recommend a source for these in the uk as i am struggling to find a single place in uk to get this.
    many thanks.

  • Reply Con May 4, 2019 at 3:20 pm

    such a small period could be accounted for by seasonal allergens

  • Reply LuckySixes May 6, 2019 at 12:27 am

    Is this what Dr. takashima from Baylor uses?

  • Reply Roni Tillmann May 20, 2019 at 8:17 pm

    por favor me ajude minha filha tem sinuste a 6 meses dor de cabeça constante nada para já tomou antibiótico .gratidão

  • Reply Jordan Smith May 30, 2019 at 8:12 pm

    Could I not do this experiment with kimchi juice or other fermented products that contain L. Sakei? I currently have some pickles fermenting (with garlic) and supposedly it is the garlic that encourages the L. Sakei to grow. I might try this with the pickle juice as it will be ready in a few days.

  • Reply Simon Stones June 16, 2019 at 1:39 pm

    Hi Chris, if I said to you I’m producing lots of green mucus, I can’t taste or smell, I feel crap/fatigued, blocked and stuffy nose and a very slight pressure in my forehead when I stoop forward….what would you say? 🤔

  • Reply MJ August 17, 2019 at 8:19 pm

    For someone ill for 6yrs and on antibiotics forever, how many times a day should i do this? I have ordered some
    Thanku

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