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How to Fight the Flu!

September 21, 2019


the flu is taking the country incredibly
hard this season for whatever reason i don’t really know why that may be but in
minnesota aluminum party and he had promised in minnesota hello there have already
been sixty-four related deaths which is an inherently high number as we
mentioned earlier and show and as many of you know from listening to me i myself have been sick for a few weeks
block cleanup woohoo tonight that the next time but it’s
really hard hitting most of the state’s uh… like i said
several bats had been obviously affecting college
students because you guys have been busy stressful lifestyles and
so that can weaken your immune system cause you guys to get sick so the best
hygiene not always sheri latham terms exactly ten years i
mean that’s sure to well enough for me anyway when i was going to put you’re
awesome mingling with huge numbers of people like you’re gonna dorm as opposed
to decide how suffer for people right in your classroom surrounded by
people constantly walking through the crowds um… not a lot of people i think have
that sort of day-to-day existence i think that naturally raises the chances
and explosions landslide a party that i know like drinking off the same cops
with item meningitis was like a big problem in college and i was like you to
be but i would imagine growth is to be a big problem speaker pple let’s put it into the democratic having
any paper copies everybody had to have a single year dot com so to have fun and get the full celiac
so we just want to talk a little bit about the flow we want to hear from you
guys and see how do you guys been saic what is a bad light i’m sure it’s been
off all that is not how it’s affecting you out of the university of minnesota
and believes yes it is actually canceling one of its normal policies
which says that if you knew if you’re a student there you go have to attend the first day of class and if you cannot have a doctor’s note
this year for one of the first times on their or one of the very rare times
actually suspending that policy so you should email your professor but you
don’t have to go on sale we also want to just talk about some of
the ways that you can keep healthy which and you had a lot of
people who are you looking we go into those lowly quote uh… this is from sarah some rocket junior
michigan state university in an already and or and she says i’ve been disinfecting my
floors and door handles and taking forever naps how did you get back to you independent of loyal to the women are
not perfect but it’s also been respectfully and she’s like for me it i’ve already
gone through a bottle of night will have been sleeping with about a tissues i’m
not sure that the bulb little was just for the flu so that that’s all you have access to
the half uh… but i think i think that very seriously but we do have some tips
from the center for disease control and prevention for how you can uh… to
lower your chances of getting the flu anyway are some of these are obvious but
i think that they’re worth mentioning because gives the london and you’ll note
from this first on using tissue to cover your mouth and nose and copper slag like we just bought everyday since we
were five palestinians still nobody knows right graphic lighting part of it is the
visitor to sound like an idiot of seizing especially when you first
start doing it yet but he does it feels good at the
beginning but it’s also kind of lake forcing but look how do you i didn’t see
i don’t know i thought that some people anyone depending on your team and you don’t
know how powerful it’ll be enormously isn’t all prepared by the
time that you know the truth of our on as well as other people might not like
this on my case because i want to see that they have when i’m all right figured and then my grandpa i’d like check it out loud it’s even better i
don’t think i’d love the idea that you’re sort of sneezing marvelous we
need to use it process i think okay tumor the could be there these are
hiding fair has basically use soap and warm water to wash your hands for at
least twenty seconds it takes that long for the june sections that we’ve been
and use alcohol-based hand sanitizer between washington of disinfect your
pants uh… yeah i know we we talk sometimes about
uh… the overuse of sanitizers antibiotics and stuff like that and i
think in general as a society we should rethink how much is that stuff but right
now where a terrible flu seasons to just use the hanson location delhi is wash
your hands just normal self without with not antibacterial soaps watching and the
pope also because i think it is many of the germs off anyways its not killing
and it’s not specifically killing the bacteria it’s not creating these to
burbank teria not by making everything resistant and i
think it is just you’re watching into getting everything off so i think what
your hands uh… so obviously something really
really revolutionary really groundbreaking tents here lottery hope
they help me well so they say in this this is what
we’re saying before i’ll keep your distance road people avoiding close
contact the reciept stay home from work if you’re sick tech yahoo a nightmare exactly will you be viewed as something
today that i did have one day off an it company with you and you and the
current day so i didn’t have i want to think that i wanted to talk
about uh… you know you guys you guys got lucky that if i want me to be sick
more often get more anna soap thing i’d ever talk about some of the
flu vaccine because that’s a lot of ways that people that’s why i waited a lot of
people choose to combat the flu this season and the silencing
for one thing how vaccines work cuz i don’t know if lot of people actually
know that uh… and what about the actually does
is it introduces that strain of virus into your body but it’s either add dead or a weakened
form of that strain and so then what it does is your body and learns to fight it
off because of that vaccine and create the antibodies that are going to fight
that off uh… yet so i mean free vaccines have really brock are society
of very long way in there are a lot of benefits to getting the vaccine we keep laughing and you know that when
i got this there are also some downside seeing the vaccine to no one for one
thing i think that the most significant
downside is that you have to realize that it’s not just and end all be all
solution you can just get the back seat and i think like at the back seat not
gonna get sick i don’t need to take care of myself i don’t mean to eat well
washington vitamins wash my hands i can make out with somebody that has
bronchitis a rather avocent because i’m the flow it’s
different sellout fashion show yet but if we had served
time yet so you can’t just take a back seat and i think i’m totally fine on
america all other downsize the vaccine one is a lot of people who are allergic
to egg can’t get the vaccine because they use that in the solution uh… and also it takes two weeks for
that for that matter we know it seems to
think we are she didn’t don’t suppose they’re not want groundbreaking around reading here at
the right to your at that time and it also uh… it’s like i said it’s not a
guaranteed exit takes two weeks to cake and that’s because your body is
developing us antibodies and self if you’re like oh i got my i’m on a big
trip next week i better get the flu shot like well take sixty contents are you doing that uh… and then one of their it can cause
some side effects some of us are short term and you just feel dicuss or arm or
what are you know from from the injection site site we might feel little sick have a
headache for a few days but some other actually more long term
and there’s an increase amount of evidence that uh… vaccines can
actually meet alzheimer’s in these later in life so just a way that cost and benefits
effectively uh… and noted that really the best way
to avoid the flu is to just keep up your hygiene and to keep up your immune
system and that doesn’t just happen come november december you’ve got it worked
out throughout your entire life it really eat healthy eating and and tonight insulate sometimes the best way to you keyed up your immune system this isn’t
just my penis is actually fact hatred now that the fitness do it expo to not all people reside overusing the lights on hand sanitizer
you’ve got actually lake expose your body he said bacteria and viruses that
your your means can build up defenses against that so i didn’t realize that i was being
safe was a in having i’m now but you’ll see action that they’re dying
government hopes taxing yeah i forgot also that yeah i always say that that’s
a relatives in a delight five percent a comment to me like you don’t understand
why it seems dimas aids and stuff like that and they’ve put their like like you said
there are health risk getting vaccines there not a cure all that some people or
think they are like these these things are true there
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100 Comments

  • Reply Definitely Not Kalli January 30, 2013 at 3:15 am

    Did you just say that vaccines aren't doing us any good? Did I miss the context?

  • Reply UhHuh January 30, 2013 at 3:16 am

    "When I was a little boy in New York city in the 1940's, we swam in the Hudson river. And it was filled with raw sewage! OK? We swam in raw sewage, you know, to cool off. And at that time the big fear was polio. Thousands of kids died from polio every year. But you know something? In my neighborhood no one ever got polio. No one! EVER! You know why? Cause WE SWAM IN RAW SEWAGE! It strengthened our immune system, the polio never had a prayer. We were tempered in raw shit!" – George Carlin

  • Reply Chuck Finley January 30, 2013 at 3:47 am

    exercise is also helpful…

  • Reply MsMoonsong January 30, 2013 at 3:58 am

    That's my point 🙂 We've gotta get dirty.

  • Reply MsMoonsong January 30, 2013 at 3:59 am

    They're not doing any good for us in the long term, it the short term yes they make us immune to a single strain. The idea is to be immune/be able to fight all strains.

  • Reply MsMoonsong January 30, 2013 at 4:19 am

    I understand, I'm simply not being willfully ignorant and dense. I've said it several times now, but look at the BIG picture, you're looking at the details! The big picture takes in long term cause/effect relations, you're not doing that which is why you're not understanding things. Vaccines do zilch in the long term if we just have to deal with a new strain, I'm talking about being able to fight off all strains.

  • Reply Marydian Dawn January 30, 2013 at 4:29 am

    The strains that the flu vaccine protects against are also decided based on what strains were prominent in the southern hemisphere during their flu season. So the vaccine never protects you from all strains, either.

  • Reply nobe nono January 30, 2013 at 5:00 am

    as a bio major…your explanation of what vaccines do gives me cancer. i literally got cancer from it.

  • Reply Definitely Not Kalli January 30, 2013 at 5:02 am

    With the flu, sure. With serious diseases we will have saved billions of people over the century.

  • Reply OriginalRob January 30, 2013 at 5:03 am

    I don't remember the last time I had the flu would have been middle school I guess, if I ever have. Im 24 now and have never had a flu shot. I usually get a cold that last a couple days maybe twice a year, but that's about it.

  • Reply Praise The Masculine Flames January 30, 2013 at 5:48 am

    I only said you did that. And you did.

    Not to mention, you cite obesity as a reason people are deficient in things.

    you realize those two concepts dont relate right? Dumbass. If anything a fat person has TOO much of something…. inb4youthinkeatingtoomanyFAVdoesntcreatefatcells

  • Reply markjabari January 30, 2013 at 6:34 am

    1st world problems, worried about the flu. What if they faced malaria, half the population would be wiped out

  • Reply ERAUPRCWA January 30, 2013 at 6:36 am

    Anyone ever read or see, Stephen King's "The Stand"? just saying. THIS IS THE WAY THE WORLD ENDS, THIS IS THE WAY THE WORLD ENDS, THIS IS THE WAY THE WORLD ENDS, NOT WITH A BANG, BUT A WHIMPER. -TS Elliot

  • Reply ERAUPRCWA January 30, 2013 at 6:42 am

    Same here. Last time I had the flu was 2006. The worst I get now is season allergies and bronchitis once… I was forced into getting the flu vaccine but never got sick.

  • Reply MsMoonsong January 30, 2013 at 7:09 am

    I was talking about cause and effect relationships and how vaccines don't necessarily help hence my constant usage of "Long term effects". Enjoy your self inflicted cancer.

  • Reply Ser Raejk January 30, 2013 at 7:35 am

    The thought of sneezing on my arm sounds gross, I always do the small sneeze like Lisa. O.O

  • Reply Bryan Reviews January 30, 2013 at 7:56 am

    oh lisa probably has the same sneezes that my pug had 🙂

  • Reply SailingSeignior January 30, 2013 at 9:01 am

    I'm *cough cough* sick as hell right now. 🙁

  • Reply Kismet Esoteric January 30, 2013 at 9:21 am

    It's funny that you say that everyone knows how to sneeze and then go on to imply that people should cover their hands Which is the wrong way to sneeze… The proper way to sneeze is to sneeze or cough into the inside of your elbow as to keep from getting germs on your hands.. which everyone knows is the proper way to sneeze or cough…

  • Reply Graham Johnson January 30, 2013 at 9:22 am

    We do prefer Ana.

  • Reply Kismet Esoteric January 30, 2013 at 9:24 am

    Also, it's a misconception about not getting the flu vaccine because of "egg" if you ask a doctor they would tell you that the amount is so miniscule that in no way is it dangious even with allergies to egg.

  • Reply Atomsk12 January 30, 2013 at 11:06 am

    Lisa, WHAT THE F***?!?! Weigh the costs and benefits? There is MASSIVE benefit from vaccination when one compares the small probability of side-effects to the consequences of getting ill from that disease.

  • Reply Trickius January 30, 2013 at 11:55 am

    Wrong.
    I am allergic to egg and was told the same thing… and then I went and had the vaccine and my arm swelled up to 3 times normal size, and then bruised up as if someone had literally beaten the shit out of me. I also experienced respiratory problems (wheezing/coughing), and then spent the following two weeks violently ill and with sinusitis that turned into an ear infection. Haven''t gotten a flu vaccination ever since.

  • Reply ryebread1980 January 30, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Vaccines do help but the problem is again with greed. The companies who have and some still do use mercury to preserve the vaccine. We have more vaccines today than ever before just as we have more cases of autism than ever before. Coincidence? I think not. Also how many here know that when they test them for approval it is only as an individual and not combined with others as they are when administered by doctors.

  • Reply HellDancer007 January 30, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    you are awsome yea im thumbsing this comment up if your too clean your imune system will be weak like being fat not excersing fuck this.man USA IS DEVOLPING THE H5N1 FLU VIRUS TO MAKE A PANDAMIC ITS AGENDA 21.

  • Reply billyboy4 January 30, 2013 at 6:07 pm

    So much pseudo-science in both the video and comments I wouldn't know where to begin.

  • Reply Thezuule January 30, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    Tamiflu?

  • Reply Thezuule January 30, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    Thimerosal is not ethyl mercury. How much time have you spent in chemistry classes? People use thimerosal in their contact lens cleaning solution, that means they put it into their eye every single morning. It's not anything to be concerned about. And no it isn't a coincidence there's more autism, it's an issue of better diagnosis and a huge umbrella called "Autism Spectrum Disorders" that encompasses what used to be 12+ different childhood psychosis including childhood schizophrenia and others.

  • Reply Thezuule January 30, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    Umm how many people do you know with polio? Vaccines don't help… what are you talking about?

  • Reply ryebread1980 January 30, 2013 at 7:34 pm

    What is thimerosal, and why is it in some vaccines?
    Thimerosal is a compound that is 49.6% mercury by weight. Although it is not used in all vaccines (for example, it is not used in measles-mumps-rubella or chickenpox vaccines), it has been part of the manufacture of many vaccines since the 1930s. Thimerosal has been used:
    to kill the bacteria that make the vaccine itself (e.g., whole cell pertussis vaccine)

  • Reply Thezuule January 30, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    Do you know the difference between ethyl and methyl mercury? I have to assume the answer is no. Also, if thimerosal is causing all these health problems like autism why didn't the autism rates go down when they started phasing it out of the vaccines?

  • Reply ryebread1980 January 30, 2013 at 7:45 pm

    w w w ageofautism com/2013/01/mercury-laden-vaccines-exempted-from-mercury-treaty

  • Reply MsMoonsong January 30, 2013 at 7:57 pm

    There are only 3 main strains to polio, there are far more strains of the flu. It's easy to wipe out something when it's so limited.

  • Reply Thezuule January 30, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    You didn't answer my question. Also, what you posted is obviously a propaganda site. As I stated, if thimerosal was causing autism why didn't the autism rate go down when they started phasing it out? The autism "epidemic" is one of diagnosis, nothing more. Dozens of childhood psychosis like childhood schizophrenia are now properly diagnosed under the ENORMOUS umbrella of Autism Spectrum Disorders. There aren't any more autistic kids, they just aren't locked in institutions with incorrect diags.

  • Reply Thezuule January 30, 2013 at 8:05 pm

    Except we can show you actually have antigens against the flu strains you've been vaccinated against with a simple blood test. The flu vaccine works, there's no debate about it. The problem is that we have to base the vaccine on a forecast for what we think are going to be the strains in play this season and unfortunately nobody has a crystal ball. This is the best we can do right now. Until someone makes a time machine or discover a universal flu vaccination we've got to take our best guess.

  • Reply Thezuule January 30, 2013 at 8:07 pm

    (pt2) Your comment said we aren't challenging our immune systems but that's exactly what a vaccine does. It gives the immune system the information it needs to create a new antigen. It's a challenge the same as a natural infection it just removes the nasty parts like dropping dead, being covered in boils, having neurological and physiological disorders that are crippling, etc. I mean we could go back to thousands of children dying from ear infections to evolve better ears but I'd rather not…

  • Reply ryebread1980 January 30, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    ok well unfortunately for your kid you'll probably load them up with mercury and obviously you have some kind of ties to the vaccine companies

  • Reply Thezuule January 30, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    What a fucking cop out. I work with the developmentally disabled at a group home. Just because I happen to have a college education and know that you're spreading shit on the Internet doesn't mean I work for a pharmaceutical company. Good grief man. Thimerosal is not the kind of mercury you think it is. Do you know that apple juice is loaded with arsenic? Do you realize it's not going to kill you. People give infant children apple juice, your parents probably gave it to you. Ethyl/Methyl. Learn.

  • Reply Thezuule January 30, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    (pt2) Also do you mean to tell me your parents didn't have you vaccinated as a child? Did you attend public school in the United States? If so you were most likely vaccinated. You can't sit here living a life with all the benefits of vaccination and bitch about how vaccines are poisonous. This is like stuffing your face with food while complaining about food subsidies. Hypocrite.

  • Reply sacv27 January 30, 2013 at 8:56 pm

    Hand sanitizer and germophobia are the reasons this generation is so sickly.

  • Reply GigaBoost January 30, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    How to fight the flue: VACCINE.

  • Reply MsMoonsong January 30, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    That's my point, maybe we don't need a universal vaccine, we've turned vaccines into crutches instead of letting our systems fight the full blown virus. Maybe by simply letting things happen, unless it's an emergency, we could overcome such.
    Not so much, maybe you don't understand the definition of 'challenge'? Challenges aren't easy, hence they're a challenge. What we do with vaccines is make it easy to overcome.
    Short term positive results doesn't negate long term negative effects remember.

  • Reply ryebread1980 January 30, 2013 at 10:13 pm

    I'm not saying we shouldn't be vaccinated what I'm saying is that these companies have alternative ways of preserving them but don't because it doesn't profit them as much money. Yes I know that several brands of apple juice contain arsenic. No it won't kill you but I'm sure that it takes its toll on your body. The same way that fluoride in our water is synthetic and poisonous. It started off as a pesticide.

  • Reply schtoltheimreinbach January 30, 2013 at 10:25 pm

    how to fight the flu: Be Superman

  • Reply 777SilverPhoenix777 January 30, 2013 at 11:10 pm

    Finally someone who mentions the down sides of vaccines. its about time. just eat healthy people!

  • Reply mailmeonline January 31, 2013 at 12:51 am

    I got sick three times this winter already…

  • Reply Travis Brown January 31, 2013 at 2:03 am

    I cough a cold

  • Reply AbrahamsYTC January 31, 2013 at 3:17 am

    4x here and still going strong with some leftover phlegm!…

  • Reply WOKEipedia January 31, 2013 at 4:29 am

    The polio vaccine was provided freely to all who needed it and its inventor took no patents out on it. Todays vaccines are made by private companies who profit immensely from it so a real cure like the one for polio is just not good for business

  • Reply Kismet Esoteric January 31, 2013 at 8:02 am

    ahh you know what? You're right, I just hit up the CDC website and there can be a reaction to egg allergies due to the vaccine being grown in hen eggs. I stand corrected.l

  • Reply Kismet Esoteric January 31, 2013 at 8:07 am

    But that goes for people who have had severe allergic reactions. Also, there is FDA approved egg-free vaccines.

  • Reply Thezuule January 31, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Vaccines make up less than 2% of the pharmaceutical market. You can literally make more money selling aspirin. That's a fact. How exactly is selling a single dose (maybe three times at most) in a lifetime of something that is dirt cheap "profiting immensely" exactly? Modern vaccines are still REAL CURES just like the polio vaccine was. Vaccine patents can only last for a decade anyway, they aren't any different than any other medical patent as far as I'm aware.

  • Reply Thezuule January 31, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    See you just did something the anti-vax crowed never ever does…. You admitted you were wrong. Bravo sir. This is why some people learn and others do not.

  • Reply Brandon Marvel January 31, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    get more anna?!? lisa actually seems like a more fun person to be around then anna

  • Reply shadowkatie2 January 31, 2013 at 5:30 pm

    Lisa sneezes like me and Lisa's grandma sneezes like my dad

  • Reply KennySwiss January 31, 2013 at 8:45 pm

    I'm allergic to mercury. So no vaccines for me. How about that for a "crazy" comment.

  • Reply richmyster84 January 31, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    I'm a LOUD multiple sneezer. always have been.

  • Reply kiatiming101 January 31, 2013 at 11:38 pm

    [email protected] , what are you talking about? polio was not just a some ailment, it was an epidemic, there was a societal need for a vaccine. Children and adults like President Roosevelt had it. Today, the majority of the population in the US can get a free flu vaccine in most local pharmacies. New improvements in medicine and technology have eradicated most diseases. Thats why companies today can profit from this because its about manageable sickness through treatment, not cures.

  • Reply SirElspeth February 1, 2013 at 12:59 am

    Vaccines are not the same as having half the work done for you at all, rubbish. They give you an inactive or weak strain of something, and you build up resistance to that so when the real thing comes along, your body recognises it and reacts with what it learned from the jag – whooping cough, mumps and measles are not something we fear any more, because vaccines largely work for the things they are targeted at. Not saying a flu jag is worth it for everyone, but vaccines are extremely helpful.

  • Reply MsMoonsong February 1, 2013 at 2:38 am

    You realize you just argued against yourself?
    "They give you an inactive or weak strain of something"
    In otherwords you're not fighting a normal fully active virus, you're having a good part of the work done for you. You just have to build up the antibodies so you become resistant to future exposure.

  • Reply SirElspeth February 1, 2013 at 10:43 am

    It's not 'having part of the work done for you', your antibodies have still learned what they need to to stave off the flu, but without you getting sick. The antibodies have still done that work. So when you get the flu, they know what to do. The vaccine is only temporary for flu because the flu adapts every year, but that was true when we didn't have the vaccine as well. Vaccines are highly useful in training antibodies, without putting health at risk – like for asthmatics who can die from flu.

  • Reply mjr256 February 1, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    Vaccines save lives. It's that simple. And getting the flu shot doesn't just potentially protect you but also everyone around you. It's a $10 investment each year and it's not hard to even find a way to get it for free. Contrary to the baseless opinions of Playboy bunnies, the risks from vaccines are minimal. There's no excuse not to get it.

  • Reply mjr256 February 1, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    On the contrary, "mercury" (or rather the completely safe preservative Thimorsal that is manufactured with ethylmercury) was been removed from almost all vaccines in 2001. So unless you have access to a time machine, you'll need to find a new excuse.

  • Reply kingraver507 February 2, 2013 at 6:49 am

    I live in Minnesota and yeah it's pretty bad up here

  • Reply MrG0TH1ER February 3, 2013 at 2:05 am

    First, we are no getting sicker than before (given how people travel all over the world it's quite impressive). Vaccines do not lower immune system. It's the over use of antibiotic that does that (It is also dangerous to create stronger infection when using antibiotic willy neely). Please stop spreading you scientific ignorance.

  • Reply MsMoonsong February 3, 2013 at 5:09 am

    Thank you, glad I'm not the only person that understands those concerns.

  • Reply MrG0TH1ER February 3, 2013 at 5:52 am

    You seem to confuse antibiotics with vaccines (which do expose you to infections).

    But if you say some actual relevant knowledgeable people are making a connection between vaccine and some autoimmune and allergic diseases, please share with us the peer reviewed papers.

  • Reply MrG0TH1ER February 3, 2013 at 6:59 pm

    Learn to reed. You are pointing to a problem with one single vaccine (MMR). If you read the conclusions of the papers they all say something like: "ITP is unlikely after early childhood vaccines other than MMR." meaning that this is not a problem with vaccine in general but with one single vacccine.

  • Reply MrG0TH1ER February 3, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    All the data shows that the very few problems that vaccines can create are nothing compared to the health improvement and lives saved by them. The “anti-vaccine” uneducated propaganda has caused more death (helping resurgence of almost extinct diseases) than all the vaccines used in history combined. When you do the cost benefit analysis you understand why that is. That doesn’t mean we should not work to improve the vaccines.

  • Reply MrG0TH1ER February 4, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    So you agree that people should get vaccines in general then? That's fine with me. Just be careful how you present your concerns. Creating unfounded fear of vaccines in parts of the population can have very dangerous consequences. If it was only killing the stupid people I would almost be fine with them not getting any vaccines (it’s their choice and less stupid is good for everyone) but their children do not deserve to pay for the stupidity of their reactionary parents.

  • Reply Thezuule February 18, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    What the fuck are you talking about HIV for?

  • Reply Thezuule February 18, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    Then you shouldn't be spreading anecdotal nonsense on the Internet that might end up getting someone killed from an illness that's easily preventable. Here I can do it too. I work with a young man whose parents didn't get him vaccinated, he got very sick and ran a very high fever that resulted in brain damage, now the kid is mentally retarded and his parents don't come to visit him in the home they stuck him in. They ruined his fucking life. I don't want anymore clients with brain damage.

  • Reply Thezuule February 18, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    What does exposure to microorganisms have to do with anything? You're aware that a vaccine is in fact an exposure to a microorganism right?

  • Reply Thezuule February 18, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    You realize people die from those illnesses right? It's not a good idea to just say "Oh let people get polio so they can make their own antibodies, it doesn't matter if thousands of people are crippled and dead, fuck em!" Immunity from vaccination usually last a lifetime, those that do not only require booster shots every so often. What part of the immune system do you believe is so essential and isn't being engaged? Vaccines cause the body to make antigens, that's what we want.

  • Reply Thezuule February 18, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    You don't really understand how the immune system works… The immunity you get from a vaccine is completely useful against the "fully active virus" if you want to call it that. That's a proven fact. You don't get tetanus once you've got a tetanus vaccine, the "real tetanus" is defeated. This isn't a super complex concept here.

  • Reply MrG0TH1ER February 18, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    Did you even understand the video you watched?

  • Reply MsMoonsong February 18, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    DUH! It's not that I don't understand, it's that you keep missing the point I've been making. The point is to become immune to all flu viruses, the vaccine only works vs one, and it doesn't help us in the long term because it doesn't trigger a full body response only an immune one. Adaptation for this requires both full body and immune response, in essence we're short changing ourselves in the long run for quick benefits.

  • Reply MsMoonsong February 18, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    In the short term ya, antigens might be want you want, but in the long run what happens when we come up against something not so easily beaten? What then? We have relied on fast results for so long that we would have naturally evolved to become stronger. Saving lives is nice in the short term but you're totally neglecting the long term effects on the human body, on population, the planet, offspring, and so many other areas.

  • Reply Simi1616 February 18, 2013 at 10:59 pm

    Actually, as a medical student I have read a vast majority of the medical literature on vaccines, INCLUDING the negative side effects. You are wrong. Maybe you should take your own advice and educate yourself. Vaccines are one of the greatest inventions made by humankind and if it weren't for crazy antivaxers like you, we would have eradicated a much larger number of diseases by now.

  • Reply Thezuule February 18, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    Comments like this are proof you don't know what you're talking about.

  • Reply MsMoonsong February 19, 2013 at 12:47 am

    Petty and pathetic jab. That's really the best you can do? No counter argument and you haven't disproven me, I guess you lost this argument. I guess I shouldn't be surprised from a small minded moron that isn't willing to look beyond the quick/short term/present.

  • Reply Thezuule February 19, 2013 at 12:51 am

    There's no counter argument to make, you're talking shit, you don't understand the human immune system. Where did you go to med school?

  • Reply Thezuule February 19, 2013 at 12:54 am

    Here, I'll throw you a bone. You can never become immune to all flu virus strains as they are regional and constantly mutating. If you became immune to every strain of flu on the planet next year there would likely be a brand new strain that would make you sick. The immune system does not and can not make blanket antigens that go after all flu viruses, it doesn't work that. Viruses evolve, our best bet is to cut them off at the point of infection with vaccines. No infections means no mutations.

  • Reply Thezuule February 19, 2013 at 12:56 am

    (pt2) Also what are you talking about full body response? What does that mean? The immune system is a number of individual things across the entire body that do the job of defending the body against disease. Do you think muscles or bones are supposed to do something too? Maybe your tongue? I'm lost on this one.

  • Reply MsMoonsong February 19, 2013 at 1:57 am

    Fever, sweats, all the things that happen when you fall ill are from a full body response. Your comment shows you don't even know that. Vaccines don't trigger them, they only trigger the antibody part.

  • Reply Thezuule February 19, 2013 at 2:02 am

    LOL wow… Those are physiological responses to the activity of your immune system… You're aware that after you get the flu vaccine you get a little sick right? Often this includes a fever which causes sweating and all this. There is no such thing as this full body response you're talking about. The immune system responds to disease. Your body temperature goes up because your body is trying to kill the virus by essentially overheating it. It's part of the reason you feel cold when you're sick.

  • Reply Thezuule February 19, 2013 at 2:03 am

    (pt2) All of this is triggered by your immune system though. I think you're confused about how the body works. All these symptoms of sicknesses are caused by the action of the immune system and the subsequent physiological response by the body to that action. I realize you think you know better than everyone else but you don't. Ask your doctor about your little theory and see what he thinks. Or refuse to listen to his opinion and his decade of education and more experience. Dunning Kruger Effect

  • Reply MsMoonsong February 19, 2013 at 3:08 am

    Dear god. *sigh* You're still missing the point. Vaccines don't trigger ALL!!!!! the normal responses. I'm well aware of vaccine reactions, but they aren't the same as normal ones. You keep rambling the same dumb stuff over and over as if it will somehow invalidate me, it doesn't. I don't think I know better, I simply take in more factors, especially long term positive/negative, instead of jumping on a bandwagon and screaming "Ah ha results!" You'd make a terrible scientist you know.

  • Reply Thezuule February 19, 2013 at 4:17 am

    You know many of the normal responses can be fatal right? Are you advocating that the polio vaccine should paralyze people for a full body response? I'm lost on this logic.

  • Reply MsMoonsong February 19, 2013 at 5:07 am

    Yes I'm well aware, I'm also aware that saving everyone is a terrible idea unless you're all for breeding humanity into extinction. Yes on the polio though, because what if we adapt to overcome that? What if we evolve to deal with paralysis whether it's from disease or injury? It's not an entirely unreasonable thought. The problem is you're not being logical enough, you're not applying possible evolutionary changes/adaptations, positive/negative short and long term effects, etc.

  • Reply pneumatictrousers February 20, 2013 at 9:58 am

    I got the flu a month ago like 80% of my classmates. My teacher said it was the most amount of students he has witnessed sick at one time in all his years of teaching.

  • Reply Thezuule February 22, 2013 at 1:40 am

    Sure thing pal.

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    fuck the flu. I hate it. ugh im so mad >:(

  • Reply Thezuule August 17, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    Saving everyone is a terrible idea? Huh? You're either a sociopath or you don't know what you're talking about. Human beings haven't evolved much in 100,000 years, I'm pretty sure just letting people die from polio so you can run this little eugenics experiment is a bunk idea. Epigenetics is far more complex than I think you realize.

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