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Gulf War Illness

December 27, 2019

Brad: Good afternoon and welcome. You’re with Chisholm Chisholm and Kilpatrick. My name is Brad Hennings and I’m going to
be moderating a discussion about Gulf War Illness in the VA claims process. With me is Mr. Kerry Baker of the firm and
Ms. Jenna Zellmer of the firm as well and they’re both well acquainted with the issues
involving Gulf War Illness and how they’re compensated in the claims process. Jenna works primarily on the court, court
side meaning that she practices before the Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims. And Kerry primarily practices at the Department
of Veterans Affairs before the Regional Offices and the Board of Veterans’ Appeals. So let’s sort of start from the beginning
and where– when and where was the Persian Gulf War? Jenna: So thanks Brad. So, generally when you say Persian Gulf War
people’s minds automatically go to the first Persian Gulf War which was in the early 1990’s
and that was Operation Desert Storm, Desert Shield. But what a lot of people don’t realize is
that we’ve had troops in that area, it’s called the Southwest Asia Theater of Operations since
that time. And so the Persian Gulf War, when we’re talking
about Gulf War Illness, that can be anyone who served in Operation Desert Storm or Desert
Shield but also any of our more recent veterans. So, veterans who served in Operation Iraqi
Freedom or Operation New Dawn and in some instances, which we’ll talk about, Operation
Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan as well. Brad: Okay. So, what kind of toxins and substances were
veterans exposed to during the Persian Gulf War? Kerry: Well, in a large part, it’s somewhat
unknown and that’s kind of why we have the Gulf War regulations. Some things are known and some things are
unknown, at the very least a combination of toxins and the known effects aren’t very well
understood. But there are some very clear things people
were exposed to, almost 800 burning oil wells during the Gulf War. Some isolated incidents of nerve gas released
from explosions that either we caused or the Iraqis caused. There’s always some debate on that. There are lots of insecticides and pesticides,
that person– people used personally like flea collars. There’s a lot of shots that people received. There were anti-nerve agent shots. Those really hadn’t been used to my knowledge
prior to that conflict. So, obviously, lots of high levels of particulate
matter because of that region of the world has about the highest level in the world of
particulate matter. So, lots of various things like that were
the typical exposures. Brad: So, what is Gulf War Illness and is
it the same as Gulf War Syndrome? Kerry: Gulf War Illness, Gulf War Syndrome,
they are pretty much used interchangeably. As far as the medical field is concerned,
there is no Gulf War Syndrome. Alright? That’s not a diagnosis. Neither is Gulf War Illness. But it’s referred to like that just because
of a lack of better terminology to figure out what do we call a sickness that Gulf War
veterans have or groups of various symptoms that are unexplained or what have you. So, it’s just referred to as Gulf War Illness
or Gulf War Syndrome for pretty much a lack of better terms. Brad: Okay. So, what is VA’s presumption for Gulf War
Illness or Gulf War Syndrome? And who qualifies? How does it work? Can you talk a little bit about that? Jenna: Yeah. So, as veterans were coming back from this
area which includes Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, a few other countries which
I believe we’ll put a link to on our website. As they were coming back from these countries,
VA and the government started realizing that a lot of these veterans were experiencing
unexplained illnesses or symptoms. So, this includes unexplained fatigue, unexplained
joint pain, sleep disturbance, psychological issues, respiratory issues. And there was no real reason why they should
be experiencing these besides the fact that they had been coming back from the Persian
Gulf. So, in the early 90’s, VA created this presumption
that basically said, if you have served in these particular areas and you come back and
demonstrate these signs or symptoms, we’re going to presume that those are related to
your service and grant you service connection based on those symptoms. Brad: So how does that actually work in practice? Jenna: So, VA has set up three different categories
of these signs or symptoms. So, the most straight forward is certain infectious
diseases qualify for presumption. So, if you come back with malaria or West
Nile Virus or any number of other infectious diseases and you’ve served in these qualifying
areas, then you get service connected based on that. The other two areas are a little bit more
complex and a little hard to navigate both from a veteran’s perspective and even VA sometimes
has trouble navigating. So, that’s undiagnosed illnesses and then
medically unexplained chronic multisymptom illness. And that can be shortened to MUCMI. It can be shortened to CMI for chronic multisymptom
illness. Veterans will see a lot of different abbreviations
for that group of symptoms. And so, basically, if you come back and you
are complaining about a headache, a fatigue, joint pain, a cluster of these different symptoms
that are under the undiagnosed category. But a doctor can’t figure out what’s wrong
with you. VA may decide that you qualify for presumptive
service connection because you have an undiagnosed illness. You have a cluster of signs or symptoms that
are presumably because you served in the Persian Gulf. Brad: So, this is Brad Hennings. I’m here with Jenna and Kerry from Chisholm
Chisholm and Kilpatrick on Facebook Live. We just wanted to let everyone know if you’ve
got any questions, please put them in the comments section and we will try to get to
those questions later in this event. And if you can’t do it while this is live,
please shoot us a message on our Facebook site and we will try to get back to you as
soon as we can. So, that being said, what kind of symptoms
qualify as an undiagnosed illness? What does that mean? Kerry: It’s kind of a moving target at least
as far as VA is concerned. Some things like joint pain, when you do not
have a diagnosis like arthralgia is joint pain, neuralgia is nerve pain. But that’s not– like arthralgia is not the
same as arthritis, which is inflammation in the joint either degenerative or traumatic
or what have you. So, unexplained joint pain, unexplained nerve
pain, unexplained breathing issues, any kind of objective evidence of a symptom that doctors
can’t figure out the cause of, the actual diagnosis of. So, now it’s important to understand. You asked a question about undiagnosed illness. So we’re not talking about multisymptom illness
or medically unexplained chronic multisymptom illness. Just undiagnosed illness. So, the history of that’s been really kind
of terrible with VA because doctors don’t like to admit that they can’t diagnose a disability
or what have you. So, they would usually tag a diagnosis to
it and as soon as that happens, well, VA– especially in the first 10 years or so after
the law passed, they would immediately deny the disability because it’s got a diagnosis. Even though it may have just been a doctor’s
best guess or you may have had five or six different doctors call in something five or
six different things, five or six different diagnoses. If you run in to that scenario, then it’s–
that’s a good sign what you most likely have is an undiagnosed illness. But it can be almost any body system producing
symptoms that just cannot be easily attributable to a non-diagnosis. Brad: So, we just talked about undiagnosed
illnesses and you sort of ran through how that works. But you also referenced the MUCMIs or the medically
unexplained chronic multisystem illness. So, how does that differ from the undiagnosed
illness and what are they exactly? Kerry: Well, to understand it the best is
to take a little step back. What we’re looking at here, these two things
came from two different congressional actions. When the law was first passed in the 90’s,
it only included undiagnosed illness. In early 2000’s, they added– Congress added
multisymptom illness, chronic– well, I’ll just refer it to as multisymptom illness,
so I don’t have to say the whole thing. And so, those are two different things but the reason Congress ended up adding the multisymptom illness, is because they were somewhat frustrated
at VA on how they were adjudicating undiagnosed illness claims, that as soon as any physician
or health care provider provided a descriptive label for a set of unknown symptoms or unexplained
symptoms, then that resulted in a denial of benefits simply because there was what they
considered a diagnosis of record, even though it really may not have been. Many people were calling arthralgias or neuralgias,
things like that, a diagnosis. When all that is is a term for you have joint
pain. So, Congress kind of got fed up with that
and they added the multisymptom illness. The IOM had this too, the Institute of Medicine
had something to do with that as well. But the difference is a multisymptom illness
can be a diagnosed illness. It’s usually a diagnosed illness of unknown
etiology or pathophysiology. Now that’s a moving target as well, as– especially,
we here at Chisholm Chisholm and Kilpatrick know, we’ve litigated this subject. It is a very poorly understood term or set
of terms. But the big difference is a undiagnosed illness
is a set of symptoms that simply can’t be linked to a specific diagnosis. A multisymptom illness is a diagnosed illness
that otherwise doesn’t have a known etiology or pathophysiology, such as chronic fatigue
syndrome, irritable bowel syndrome, fibromyalgia. And I say irritable bowel syndrome, the regulation
says functional G.I. disability. The statute still says irritable bowel syndrome. Brad: So, is it possible to service connect
any other diseases or symptoms under the Gulf War Illness umbrella? Jenna: Yes. So, if you– I think Kerry kind of touched
on this. So, the three listed symptoms and multi- medically
unexplained chronic multisymptom illnesses are not a finite list. So, they’re just examples. They’re not exhaustive. So, you could have something that has a diagnosis. But still doctors don’t really know what the
cause of it is. They don’t really understand how it’s– how
it works in your body. And that’s what Kerry was talking about before with the no known etiology or a no known pathophysiology. If you can get a doctor to say that there’s
no known etiology and no known pathophysiology, you can still get service connected under
that MUCMI category. And Kerry mentioned before, we are still litigating
that. As it stands right now, the law says, VA is
saying that you have to have an unknown etiology and an unknown pathophysiology. You can’t just have one or the other. Both things need to be a mystery. CCK kind of disagrees and so, we’re still
working on that at court. And so, as soon as we get a decision on that,
I’m sure we’ll talk about it on our blog. But for the time being, if you have a diagnosed
illness that is really totally unknown. We don’t know where it came from. We don’t know how it works. You can get service connected for a chronic
multisymptom illness. Brad: So, listening to both of you talk, it
sounds as though this is a very complex or complicated area of the VA disability compensation
scheme. Is that fair to say? Jenna: Yes. Kerry: It is insanely complex. Brad: So, please talk– if you have a representative
and you’re working on one of these claims, be it a veteran service organization, an accredited
attorney or a VA accredited agent. Please talk to them about your particular
claim. Now are there also infectious diseases that
qualify as Gulf War Illnesses? I know we talked about some other categories. But– Jenna: Yes. So, infectious diseases is that third category
under this umbrella of Gulf War Illness. And there are nine infectious diseases right
now that qualify. And, so if you have malaria, West Nile virus,
a few other infectious diseases, that I’m not going to attempt to pronounce but are
listed on our website. You can– if you served in the Gulf War and
you come back with that disease, you can get service connect for that. Brad: Great. So let’s talk a little bit about Gulf War
Illness claims at the VA itself. So, Kerry does VA tend to fairly adjudicate
these kind of claims? How do they treat them historically and now? Kerry: In my opinion, no. They don’t treat them very fairly. A lot of that is driven by a very poor understanding
of the history of the statute, the legislation, the regulation, a person’s time in the Gulf
War. I mean there’s multiple reasons that drive
that together with sort of, in my opinion, a group think mentality that- within VA that
they understand it, that they’ve got it. That it has to be A, B or C in order to qualify
for service connection under 3.317 or the Gulf War regulations. And it’s just not that simple. And that’s been proven time and again by the
courts, that the courts have struggled with, the Board of Veterans’ Appeals has struggled
with it. I think the Federal Circuit has done a really
good job on some of their decisions with it. But the totality of the VA, the Board of Veterans’
Appeals, the courts, representatives such as ourselves, going back and forth on this
subject, to me, shows that VA just does a very poor job at this. And I don’t see any indication they’re trying
to make it easier to understand and better for veterans at the same time. Jenna: I think that the big problem is that–
we touched on this before. There’s a presumption. And so when VA makes a presumption that something
should be service connected, it’s supposed to make it easier on the veterans to prove
their claims. But as Kerry said, that’s not really the case
and the Government Accountability Office recently found that about 80% of these types of claims
are denied outright which doesn’t really seem to jive with the fact that you’re supposed
to be able to benefit from this presumption. And so, Kerry talked about that there’s a
lack of understanding. There’s kind of some poor training and it’s
just like we keep saying, it’s a really complex area of law and it’s complex in the fact that
it’s trying to get at all of these really complicated medical terms and figuring out
how a disease really works from the inside out. And so, that kind of explains why it’s actually
harder than it should be. Brad: So, Kerry, can you talk a little bit
about the VA’s Airborne Hazards and Open Burn Pit Registry? How does that play into everything? Kerry: When it comes to these claims, it doesn’t
really. Because it’s a VHA tool designed to give VA
some data for their research efforts. But what that is, basically, is if you’re
a Gulf War veteran and you want a full Gulf War examination, you can go to VHA and they
will provide one. They’ll put you on the– you can sign up for
the Gulf War registry. I don’t know how many people are on it now. But they’ve also opened it up to Iraq and
Afghanistan veterans for burn pit claims which is technically something different than the
normal Gulf War claims. But having one might give VA some data or
additional data to try to help answer some of the unknown questions as far as helping
a claim. I really haven’t seen examples where it benefits
a claim one way or the other. Brad: Okay. So, Jenna, how does the Board of Veterans’
Appeals which handles the appeals of VA claims within the VA, how do they handle them and
what are some common issues that we then as a firm have to appeal to court? Jenna: Yeah. So, Kerry mentioned earlier on, sometimes
what the Board will do is look at a claim and see a diagnosis and immediately deny the
claim because they are only focusing on whether or not a veteran has an undiagnosed illness. And so, we would see a lot of that probably
a couple years ago, I think it’s gotten a little bit more sophisticated since then and
as we’ve kind of litigated what a multisymptom illness is, we’ve seen less of that. But that was probably the most common error
a while ago and now it’s kind of more into, well, does this specific diagnosis that isn’t
chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia or a functional G.I. disorder, is this new diagnosis
that’s not specifically listed in the reg, does that qualify as a MUCMI because that’s
when the Board has a little bit less guidance. They can’t just check a box or like fit something
into a box. They have to look at the evidence and that’s
when we kind of figure out whether or not sometimes we actually attack exams because
the examiner will make an opinion that’s not really fully informed. And so, those are the kinds of things we’re
seeing at the Board and at the court a lot, trying to figure out whether or not a veteran’s
specific diagnosis has a known etiology or a known pathophysiology because it is supposed
to be a case-by-case analysis. It’s not just across the board, a disease
either is or is not a MUCMI. Brad: Well, so, Kerry, you talked a little
bit about burn pits and how they’re different. Do burn pit-related claims fall under the
Gulf War umbrella? Kerry: I’ve seen VA mix the two up a lot in
the past couple of years. Technically speaking, they do not– burn pit
related claim is a claim for service connection of whatever disability you’re claiming based
on direct service connection. In other words, you are exposed to some known
element. You have a confirmed diagnosis. You have a nexus between the two. That is more of the standard claims process
which is different than Gulf War Illness claims. But having said that, a lot of people that
were exposed to burn pits in Iraq, since that’s part of the Southwest Asia Theater and since
the Gulf War period is still running qualify for consideration of their claim under 3.317
or under the Gulf War regulations. Even though their claim might also qualify
for consideration as resulting from exposure to burn pits or any of the other environmental
hazards in Iraq and Afghanistan. Brad: So, we just actually got a question
from Julia. And the question is, do you have any insight
on requesting a Gulf War registry examination? I have a situation where an exam from the
90’s is not in the claims file. And she hasn’t gotten it as part of the VAMC
records. VA medical center records. And I’ll start with you, Jenna. And then– Jenna: Yeah. So, it sounds like– from the question, it
sounds like she has actually received the exam. She just wants a copy of it. And so, it’s– what she’s done so far, Julia,
what you’ve done so far has been right, to request the c-file. And if it’s not in the c-file, that’s a little
bit complicated, it’s possible that VA may have lost it along the way. That’s been known to happen. You could also try doing a FOIA request. But do you guys have any other thoughts on
how to get it? Kerry: I could add some things to that. And they may apply, they may not. But back in the 90’s, a lot of the VA medical
centers were still using paper records. And after a while, the VA medical centers
would– depending on where you were and what facilities they had available to them, would
retire a lot of their paper records to some warehouse somewhere. Everything is in a computer system now. VHA has a few different ones. So, there’s a chance that it’s simply not
in the medical center files any longer. It could have been retired which should still
be retrievable. But just because it’s not in the claims file,
it could still be actually in the computer system at VHA. A lot of people get confused and think, well
I have file at VA, it’s all one VA. You should not think that. You have a claims file under control of the
Veterans Benefits Administration. You have basically a medical file under control
of the Veterans Health Administration. Now, sometimes they’re the same. But most of the time they’re not. Unless the VBA has requested records from
VHA. Nowadays, they can just print them and put
them in the claims file. Back then they weren’t doing it that much. So, the records may be at the VA medical center. If you haven’t tried that, I wasn’t sure from
the message if you had. If you haven’t, then you would go to the Release
of Records Office. The Records Information Office and ask for
a copy of that. If you know about when you had it, they can
usually search examinations from treatment notes, from certain diagnostic procedures. They can separate it out now in their computer
system. So, if it’s in their computer system and just
not in the claims file, I would say go directly to the medical center and request a copy of
that. If they don’t have it, then I would ask the
medical center where in the 90’s where are you keeping your paper records when you retired them
and they may have to do a little footwork to obtain that. But they are supposed to be able to do that. So, I would give that a shot. Brad: So, what can veterans do to help their
Gulf War Illness claims through the VA adjudication process? Jenna: So, I think we’ve talked about this
a couple times. It’s really important to talk to your representative
and if you don’t have a representative, I would definitely recommend getting one for these types of claims. They’re just really difficult to prove. The area of law is really complicated. And so, having someone either a VSO or an
attorney who is a little bit more experienced than a layperson help you out would be really
helpful. And then just any other way that you would
support your claim. Writing out lay statements about what you
remember about your symptoms, getting treatment records. As long as you’re documenting everything and
making sure that everything is laid out as well as possible for the VA, you want to just
make it as easy as possible for VA to grant your claim. And so, especially in these cases where the
law is a little bit complicated and VA doesn’t do a great job. The best thing you can do is just be simple
and straightforward and to the point. And have a representative. Brad: So, it sounds like, based off of everything
that we’ve talked about in terms of the law and in terms of the medical complexity, this
isn’t something that your average doctor is going to necessarily be familiar with. So, what should a veteran do if their compensation
and pension examiner that VA provides, seems to lack the knowledge or training about these
Gulf War conditions? Kerry: Well, and they probably will. Just to put that on the table. Somewhat it depends on the disability you’re
talking about and the set of symptoms you’re talking about. So, if you’re having symptoms that they cannot
diagnose which puts you in sort of in an undiagnosed illness category, that may actually even be
a little bit easier than a multisymptom illness. One thing– because the examiner is going
to be looking for certain things that they can put their hands on, that they can touch
and feel and test for. And that may just be too much for an undiagnosed
illness. You just may not ever uncover those things. So, the key to undiagnosed illnesses are the
symptoms. So, my advice would be to keep track of those
symptoms as you run into people in day-to-day life, especially family members and friends
that notice those symptoms. Have them write lay statements for you. Now, they’re not doctors. They can’t diagnose you. But when it comes to Gulf War claims, lay
evidence is supposed to be presumed credible when you’re talking about undiagnosed illness
type issues. So, if you’re having major breathing problems
or joint pain or nerve pain or any number of things that are unexplained, then make
sure you paper the record as much as you can with lay evidence from credible sources who’ve
seen you go through the symptoms that you’ve gone through. And so, even if the VA examiner then comes
back and says, “Well, I can’t find anything and there’s no diagnosis.” Which they do, which of course if you’re claiming
an undiagnosed illness, there probably shouldn’t be a diagnosis. That’s still going to support your claim. I would also say get a copy of your exams,
when you go in for a C&P exam. But for any kind of Gulf War type illness
claim, some– we still sometimes see this. We used to see it a lot. A couple of years ago, where an examiner would
say I cannot diagnose an undiagnosed illness. It made me– they were literally saying there’s–
you don’t have this diagnosis as if undiagnosed illness was a diagnosis. That should never happen for one. And that can be overcome in how you present
your claim. So, I would say just look– keep an eye out
for little items like that. Brad: So, Jenna first, what are some examples
of that lay evidence that can be provided? What kinds of folks could provide the lay
evidence that Kerry is talking about to sort of fill in the gaps? Jenna: Yes. So, friends and family members are probably
the best source. A lot of times, we’ll see veterans whose wives
provide really valuable lay statements because they’re the people– or wives or husbands because
we have veterans who are men and women. But spouses, who– those are the people that
they spend the most time with. And so, sometimes the spouses recognize signs
or symptoms before the veteran themselves does. Coworkers are really helpful. And so are fellow service officers. If things started in service or if you’re trying to demonstrate that certain exposures or anything like that, you’re supposed to
be presumed to have been exposed to these things. But it can never hurt to just pad the record. Your fellow service members were there with
you. They presumably experienced the same things
that you did and they were there and they’re competent and credible to report those types
of things. Kerry: If I could add a little bit more about
the multisymptom illness part, kind of goes along with your question. Some people may feel that they’re kind of
stuck in what they can do when they have a diagnosis of something and VA is denying them
service connection for a multisymptom illness and it is more complex, there’s no two ways
about that. But I, and again, a lot of it depends on the
disability. But for instance, you have some type of immune
disorder that– and which there are tons of immune disorders that cause any number of
type of resulting disabilities. I’m just using that because it makes for a
good example, a good teaching example. A lot of immune disorders don’t have any known
etiology. And that doesn’t– now, that doesn’t mean
all those types of similar immune disorders should be granted service connection. As Jenna said earlier, this is a case-by-case
example. So, you want to make your case a case-by-case
example. If you are treating with a physician, VA physician
or private physician, try to get some information on the Gulf War, on what some of the exposures
were. Try to explain the best you can how the Gulf
War rules work to your physician. Ask your physician if what you have has a
known cause, a known etiology. If it does not, ask the physician if they
can kind of put that into some writing in a medical opinion for you or in your specific
situation most importantly, does it have a known etiology or pathophysiology. Most things have a pathophysiology, but not
etiology when it comes to some rare diseases. And so, that could help– at least if you
prepare the case like that and be willing to fight the appeal in the long term, you’re
going to have a lot better evidence in the record in which somebody can help you prevail
in the claim. Brad: With that, we have most of our planned
questions done. So, I just want to see if there were any additional
questions. Then that being the case, again, this has been Brad
Hennings with Chisholm Chisholm and Kilpatrick with Jenna and Kerry. Do you have any last words to add about the
subject, Jenna? Jenna: I’m good. Brad: Kerry? Kerry: One more thing. Brad: Yes, sir. Kerry: Don’t forget direct service connection. Okay? When all else fails and sometimes it’s even
easier to do this. You know, I’m a Gulf War veteran. I know what it was like over there. I remember the oil well fires, I flew helicopters
right in the middle of those things, there was no sunlight in the middle of the day. There was lots of exposures. Some things you can define easier than others. So, if you believe what– some kind of defined
illness that you have is related to a specific exposure, then work on a medical opinion or
more on that route. If you can tie your disability to a specific
exposure, then you don’t have to rely on the Gulf War regulations. And your claim might actually be much easier
to win. So, keep that in mind. That’s all. Brad: Well, that’s a great point. And if anyone has any additional questions
or they see this after the time it’s being broadcast live, please send us a message either
via Facebook or on our website at Again, this is Chisholm Chisholm and Kilpatrick. And thank you for joining us today.


  • Reply TheDercomiszar August 30, 2018 at 5:10 pm

    Thanks for the video I didn't catch it live but enjoyed it after. Super short my story, I was with the 101st during the Gulf War 90/91 was in Saudi Arabia and Iraq had the anthrax shot in Saudi Arabia also had the p b pills over a two month time. I didn't start showing any symptoms until around 2007 when I started having dizzy spells and headaches that later turn into migraines in 2015 I started having seizures I had my driver's license taken away from me and I also started having really bad migraines as well is difficulty breathing, arterial fibrillation high blood pressure joint pain as well as some ever problems including depression. I got out of the military in 92 also in 92 I started a job as a over-the-road truck driver with Schneider National I continue that job until 2015 when they took my driver's license away the company had to let me go I started medical treatment at the VA in Tampa they had me take the Gulf War examination I also made a claim in March of 2015 with the help of the local DAV in Dade City Florida that claim is in the NOD part now I think it should be coming up for a decision soon I am currently taking Gemfibrozil for cholesterol Metoprolol and Amlodipine for my aterial fibrillation high blood pressure, and Valproic Acid for my seizures and migraines. I won't bash the VA too much they have been pretty good about treating my symptoms but whenever I say I think I have Gulf War syndrome the doctors get really defensive and say no I don't I point out I have a lot of the symptoms they say no I don't ask why they simply say you just don't it's like the VA culture is Gulf War syndrome is a curse word you better not say it because they don't like to hear it they just don't believe anyone has it I believe it's because the money

  • Reply Wide Awake November 7, 2018 at 5:15 pm

    Government coverup.

  • Reply Russell Maxwell November 26, 2018 at 2:59 am

    I was their in 90-91. Why so few views and comments? I don't understand. I know I've been experiencing symptoms ever since but little or no help. Gulfwar is rarely ever even mentioned if ever.

  • Reply Richie V January 28, 2019 at 10:37 pm

    I served in the 1st gulf war the fact it's not in my medical records I can't claim for back pain headache so I stop filing claims for it.

  • Reply Scott Sweeney February 23, 2019 at 5:18 am

    Thank you for taking the time to do something like this.. It is very appreciated by more than just myself I'm sure..

  • Reply Todd Zorich May 28, 2019 at 12:57 am

    90-91 in theater at sea in persian gulf Bahrain and UAE plus some time of the coast of Kuwait, under medical discharge but not getting the right diagnoses because no va doctor will commit and civilian DR's wont step the line.

  • Reply J.Edwin Lewis July 10, 2019 at 1:26 pm

    Didn’t mention getting bad shots ?

  • Reply Jose Rivera July 12, 2019 at 4:19 pm

    Great info because for years I felt some strange forms of pain my body and expoxed to burn pits. Also experienced breathing problems.

  • Reply Donald Lohr September 4, 2019 at 2:03 am

    Just wondering if its too late to file a claim, I was in Khamisiyah, Iraq and the oil fires. I have always had multiple symptoms but was too proud to ask the VA for help. At one time I remember receiving a letter stating that I was in the area and and if I have no problems then too ignore letter. My civilian doctors tend to brush off my concerns when I ask if my symtoms are connected to the gulf.

  • Reply Coach Ken September 4, 2019 at 3:55 pm

    Excellent video! I am a big fan of your law firm.

  • Reply Free September 29, 2019 at 11:39 am

    Have brain tumors been recognized as a consequence of GWII?

  • Reply Joe Paul October 13, 2019 at 10:07 pm

    Depleted Uranium?

  • Reply Thomas November 26, 2019 at 4:44 pm

    Desert storm vet here. I am one of the lucky ones to get a full GWI diagnosed from the va. My horrible health started when I got back. I’m now 100% sc P&T with a list too long to state here. We were exposed. I was in theatre in the al-wafra and al-burquan oil fields during the ground assault and we were in a toxic soup. This is fact, one of my best friends who was On the front just outside of Kuwait and he swears to this day that he saw chem and bio markers littering up the map board and said damn!, they are using chemical weapons on my brothers up north. We look good from the outside but inside we are Mitch older then we look

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